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From: Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anxiousness? [was:Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?]
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:47:22
Message-Id: 58965d8a0901201247w4f8229cbib4d5451adb39e9b@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Anxiousness? [was:Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?] by "b.n."
1 On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, b.n. <brullonulla@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > Mark Knecht ha scritto:
3 >
4 >> The one thing I would respectfully suggest is that you carefully
5 >> build your own portage overlay. My experience with Gentoo over the
6 >> last few years is that there is a _anxiousness_ in the portage
7 >> maintainer area to move newer revisions of software into portage
8 >> quickly and then just as quickly to remove from portage what users are
9 >> currently using.
10 >
11 > Really?
12 >
13 > I am usually a bit annoyed by the contrary. On an almost 1-year old
14 > Kubuntu (8.04 Hardy Heron) I can find packages that are just barely x86
15 > stable now on Gentoo.
16 >
17 > A couple of examples I am aware of:
18 > Firefox 3: stable just since one month on Gentoo x86, was included in KB8.04
19 > Qtiplot: 0.9.x stable and working on KB8.04, all releases ~x86 (and a
20 > hell to compile on a stable system -still didn't manage to do it) in Gentoo.
21 >
22 > Python releases are often behind, and not mentioning KDE 4, which is
23 > even default on 8.10 Kubuntu and on Gentoo was still hardmasked last
24 > time I checked (but probably Gentoo is just right in this respect,
25 > everyone keeps telling me to wait before digging into KDE 4).
26 >
27 > I fully understand that there are good reasons for that, and that the
28 > meta-distribution status of Gentoo makes harder to check packages (and
29 > also that the Ubuntu folks wildly release unstable stuff... firefox 3 rc
30 > in 8.04, for example). I just feel that (stable) Gentoo is actually a
31 > bit *behind* the average Linux distribution in its revisions of software.
32 >
33 > Most importantly, I also feel that that's something new: when I first
34 > installed my system, more than 4 years ago, I felt it was *ahead*. I
35 > wonder if it's due just to the sheer increase of work required to test
36 > packages, or if there are decisions behind that (or if it's just me
37 > having false memories).
38
39 When I first installed Gentoo a few years ago, I think I switched from
40 x86 to ~x86 in the first 24 hours, for the very reason. I wanted to
41 use the newest versions and the "stable" stuff was so old... It seems
42 the majority of users are using ~arch these days.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anxiousness? [was:Tips/Tricks for Gentoo on low-spec computer?] Nick Cunningham <nick@××××××××××.net>