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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, b.n. <brullonulla@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> Mark Knecht ha scritto: |
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>> The one thing I would respectfully suggest is that you carefully |
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>> build your own portage overlay. My experience with Gentoo over the |
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>> last few years is that there is a _anxiousness_ in the portage |
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>> maintainer area to move newer revisions of software into portage |
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>> quickly and then just as quickly to remove from portage what users are |
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>> currently using. |
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> |
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> Really? |
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> |
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> I am usually a bit annoyed by the contrary. On an almost 1-year old |
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> Kubuntu (8.04 Hardy Heron) I can find packages that are just barely x86 |
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> stable now on Gentoo. |
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> A couple of examples I am aware of: |
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> Firefox 3: stable just since one month on Gentoo x86, was included in KB8.04 |
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> Qtiplot: 0.9.x stable and working on KB8.04, all releases ~x86 (and a |
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> hell to compile on a stable system -still didn't manage to do it) in Gentoo. |
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> Python releases are often behind, and not mentioning KDE 4, which is |
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> even default on 8.10 Kubuntu and on Gentoo was still hardmasked last |
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> time I checked (but probably Gentoo is just right in this respect, |
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> everyone keeps telling me to wait before digging into KDE 4). |
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> I fully understand that there are good reasons for that, and that the |
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> meta-distribution status of Gentoo makes harder to check packages (and |
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> also that the Ubuntu folks wildly release unstable stuff... firefox 3 rc |
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> in 8.04, for example). I just feel that (stable) Gentoo is actually a |
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> bit *behind* the average Linux distribution in its revisions of software. |
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> Most importantly, I also feel that that's something new: when I first |
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> installed my system, more than 4 years ago, I felt it was *ahead*. I |
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> wonder if it's due just to the sheer increase of work required to test |
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> packages, or if there are decisions behind that (or if it's just me |
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> having false memories). |
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When I first installed Gentoo a few years ago, I think I switched from |
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x86 to ~x86 in the first 24 hours, for the very reason. I wanted to |
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use the newest versions and the "stable" stuff was so old... It seems |
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the majority of users are using ~arch these days. |