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From: Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 04:16:16
Message-Id: 520DA782.4050803@sporkbox.us
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Alessio Ababilov
1 On 08/13/2013 01:08 PM, Alessio Ababilov wrote:
2 >
3 > 2013/8/13 the <the.guard@××××.ru <mailto:the.guard@××××.ru>>
4 >
5 > The site doesn't describe any real problems.
6 >
7 > Well, it is a question to discuss.
8 > I am not going to begin a holy war, I would like just to provide a
9 > possibility to perform a harmless /usr merge for those who share
10 > FreeDesktop's opinion.
11 >
12 >
13 > Also I don't see how the current dir tree is not compatible
14 > with gnu autoconf/automake.
15 >
16 > In a simple way: please look at coreutils-8.20.ebuild that has to move a
17 > lot of binaries from /usr/bin to /bin:
18 >
19 > cd "${D}"/usr/bin
20 > dodir /bin
21 > # move critical binaries into /bin (required by FHS)
22 > local fhs="cat chgrp chmod chown cp date dd df echo
23 > false ln ls
24 > mkdir mknod mv pwd rm rmdir stty sync true uname"
25 > mv ${fhs} ../../bin/ || die "could not move fhs bins"
26 >
27 > 2013/8/13 pk <peterk2@××××××××.se <mailto:peterk2@××××××××.se>>
28 >
29 > So, how would this work for me who have /usr on a separate harddrive?
30 >
31 > If you have an initrd, it will work.
32 > Anyway, I just look for people that are interested in /usr merge.
33 >
34 > And what would be the benefit? To me, mentioning Fedora, makes the alarm
35 > bells go off...
36 >
37 > Yes. it does. Fedora is a big distro sponsored by Red Hat and its /usr
38 > merge will be in RHEL-7. That's not a great idea to fight against
39 > upstream if it will do /usr merge. Remember, /bin/mail now is moved to
40 > /usr/bin/mail - what will be the next?
41 >
42 > Sincerely,
43 > Alessio Ababilov
44 > Senior Software Engineer
45 > Grid Dynamics
46 Red Hat is only upstream for GNOME and systemd. What they choose to do
47 with their distro should not affect the choices of any other distro. I
48 see no reason for a /usr merge unless one is using Fedora or wants to
49 turn their Gentoo installation into a makeshift Fedora installation.
50 This merge should not be forced on Gentoo whatsoever.

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