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From: Alessio Ababilov <ilovegnulinux@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:29:55
Message-Id: CAGbLXuVwFkRD+iQMvUXkWqhn4TyyZ9Zp5zgiXz+Wke=6vv8OAQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Daniel Campbell
1 2013/8/13 Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com>
2
3 > I think it's a great experiment, but perhaps too much work for little
4 > gain, at least currently.
5 >
6 > Thank you!
7
8 > The next council meeting will vote if separated /usr without and
9 > initramfs is officially supported by Gentoo; I hope this time around
10 > finally is officially and unequivocally stated by the council that a
11 > separated /usr without an initramfs is *NOT* supported.
12 >
13 As I see from
14 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130813.txt, the
15 council has stated that it is not supported anymore.
16
17 The usr-merge will be a slow, gradual change; it will probably take
18 > years. The systemd package entered the tree in June 2011, after more
19 > than a year in an overlay, and then it took more than two years to
20 > make it an official alternative to OpenRC. The /usr merge will take a
21 > similar amount of time, if not longer.
22 >
23 > Yes, but systemd is a large important package and it requires changes to
24 startup files in other packages, so, it took a lot of time.
25
26 As the opposite, /usr merge is easier and, IMHO, it doesn't introduce any
27 _obvious_ problems to Gentoo.
28
29 2013/8/16 Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>
30
31 >
32 > Red Hat is only upstream for GNOME and systemd. What they choose to do
33 > with their distro should not affect the choices of any other distro. I
34 > see no reason for a /usr merge unless one is using Fedora or wants to
35 > turn their Gentoo installation into a makeshift Fedora installation.
36 > This merge should not be forced on Gentoo whatsoever.
37 >
38 >
39 I would like to ask you to understand my intension. I believe that Gentoo
40 is a distro that is famous for providing choises (USE flags and so on).
41 /usr merge is also a choise, and I look for volunteers and supporters.
42 BTW, /usr merge is not just a Fedora's caprice: is is done in Arch this
43 year:
44 https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-March/022625.html
45
46
47 Sincerely,
48 Alessio Ababilov
49 Senior Software Engineer
50 Grid Dynamics

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>