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From: Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:27:48
Message-Id: 7573e9640511161422g122aebb0gf74c2dd5ff9500c3@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path? by Derek Tracy
1 On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy <tracyde@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should
3 > work,
4
5 I'm not sure this is always possible. Much of your complaint comes
6 from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14. But the in-kernel
7 version is several versions older than the external driver. So should
8 2.6.14 remain marked as unstable because of this one driver that works
9 for some people, but not for others? Or because a specific externally
10 maintained driver or package doesn't build against it?
11
12 On my system, either the in-kernel or external drivers work fine. The
13 only caveat is that I need firmware version 2.2 with the in-kernel
14 drivers, and a different version for the external. If I am using the
15 external version, the portage dependancy tree makes sure I have the
16 right version of the firmware. But the kernel sources do not (and
17 should not) depend upon the ipw2200-firmware package, so this is a
18 case where I need to know the driver requirements. (Also, the kernel
19 help specifies that the driver requires external firmware, although it
20 doesn't specify what version.)
21
22 Regarding the X.org issue, without an Xorg.0.log file, it is really
23 impossible to say what the problem there is. It could be something as
24 simple as your kernel configuration; for example leaving out I2C or
25 AGP support could cause this.
26
27 But in my view, you cannot take an existing xorg.conf file and expect
28 it to work without any issues _without_ duplicating the same system
29 configuration (kernel version, kernel config, and nvidia driver
30 version). The fastest method of configuring X on a new system is to
31 run "X -configure", test the resulting configuration, and use that
32 xorg.conf file. Yes, this would use the opensource x.org Nv driver,
33 but it should definitely work for getting X up and running. If this
34 doesn't work, then you have reason to complain.
35
36 If the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't work with a particular kernel
37 version, you can only complain to nvidia.
38
39 I'm quite sure a binary-based distribution would have worked better
40 for you in this case, only because nothing would have been upgraded or
41 changed. Everything that worked before would have continued to work,
42 just like everything that was broken before would have continued to be
43 broken. It is the price of progress, IMO.
44
45 -Richard
46
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