Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

[Derek Tracy]

On 11/16/05, Richard Fish <bigfish@××××××××××.org> wrote:
>
> On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy <tracyde@×××××.com> wrote:
> > When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should
> > work,
>
> I'm not sure this is always possible. Much of your complaint comes
> from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14. But the in-kernel
> version is several versions older than the external driver. So should
> 2.6.14 remain marked as unstable because of this one driver that works
> for some people, but not for others? Or because a specific externally
> maintained driver or package doesn't build against it?
>
> On my system, either the in-kernel or external drivers work fine. The
> only caveat is that I need firmware version 2.2 with the in-kernel
> drivers, and a different version for the external. If I am using the
> external version, the portage dependancy tree makes sure I have the
> right version of the firmware. But the kernel sources do not (and
> should not) depend upon the ipw2200-firmware package, so this is a
> case where I need to know the driver requirements. (Also, the kernel
> help specifies that the driver requires external firmware, although it
> doesn't specify what version.)


What I am complaining about is that neither of the drivers will work.

Regarding the X.org <http://X.org> issue, without an Xorg.0.log file, it is
> really
> impossible to say what the problem there is. It could be something as
> simple as your kernel configuration; for example leaving out I2C or
> AGP support could cause this.
>
> But in my view, you cannot take an existing xorg.conf file and expect
> it to work without any issues _without_ duplicating the same system
> configuration (kernel version, kernel config, and nvidia driver
> version). The fastest method of configuring X on a new system is to
> run "X -configure", test the resulting configuration, and use that
> xorg.conf file. Yes, this would use the opensource x.org <http://x.org> Nv
> driver,
> but it should definitely work for getting X up and running. If this
> doesn't work, then you have reason to complain.


I have tried both ways. My reasoning for taking my old config was originally
for the Modeline info. The only reason that I arbitrarily threw it into the
newly built system was because the X -configure did not work (even after I
switched the dev/mouse to /dev/input/mice) I get the same error with both of
the configs.

If the proprietary nvidia driver doesn't work with a particular kernel
> version, you can only complain to nvidia.


I have had that happen in the past and would not ever think about blaming
the Gentoo Developers for NVidias work.

I'm quite sure a binary-based distribution would have worked better
> for you in this case, only because nothing would have been upgraded or
> changed. Everything that worked before would have continued to work,
> just like everything that was broken before would have continued to be
> broken. It is the price of progress, IMO.
>
> -Richard
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