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On Mittwoch 12 November 2008, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: |
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> On November 12, 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> > > I had something similar on my first try: |
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> > > |
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> > > kde-4 went into /usr |
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> > > kde-3 went into /usr/kde/3.5 |
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> > > |
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> > > And bizarre weird errors kept happening. I remerged all of kde-4 with |
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> > > USE="kdeprefix" to put it back into /usr/kde/4.1 and all the weirdness |
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> > > went away |
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> > |
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> > in my opinion installing kde straight into /usr and changing the default |
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> > behaviour is the most stupid thing gentoo devs have done in the last |
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> > couple of years. |
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> |
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> wouldn't call it stupid though. FHS compliance is a good thing (I'm a |
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> sysadmin so I really appreciate when things can be easily located |
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> universaly). |
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why? the FHS is a stupid standard. Why is following stupid standards a good |
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thing? What next? LSB compliance - because it is great to be broken by |
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definition? |
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> I think what failed is communication on that change. In |
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> developers defense I'd say that we're dealing with ~arch packages here so |
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> we've been warned they'll be somewhat not-so-stable. What I think needs to |
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> happen is gentoo users have to be warned in big red letters everywhere |
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> possible when upgrading from KDE3 to KDE4 to make firm decision whether to |
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> use "kdeprefix" or not. |
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it would have been better to NOT introduce that kdeprefix flag and instead |
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introducing a FHS flag - which should have been off by default. The current |
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way - kdeprefix to get sane behaviour, that turned off, changing the default |
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behaviour is either stupid or evil. |
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> Enforcing proper FS layout is a good thing IMO. Just needs clear |
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> communication before marked as stable :) |
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Like making kde update interactive? Require a 'yes, I know about kdeprefix' |
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dialog box? |
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kde has always been in its own directory tree. /opt back in the suse days for |
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example. Elderly kde documentation told people to install kde in its own sub |
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tree - and I loved that. I always hated gnome for cluttering /usr with its |
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garbage. Having a big project like kde in its own tree has a bazillion of |
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advantages. |
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