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From: gevisz <gevisz@×××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 07:18:41
Message-Id: CA+t6X7cT5a8pAVTP_9gWTgsOaJ9WdmA3krm3DMj6GcKpc2C9ZQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive? by Alan McKinnon
1 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>:
2 > On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote:
3 >> I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive
4 >> that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files
5 >> in my home directory and carrying a very big files, for
6 >> example a virtual machine image file, from one computer
7 >> to another. This hard drive is preformatted with NTFS.
8 >> Now, I am going to format it with ext4 which probably
9 >> will take a lot of time taking into account that it is
10 >> going to be done via USB connection. So, before formatting
11 >> this hard drive I would like to know if it is still
12 >> advisable to partition big hard drives into smaller
13 >> logical ones.
14 >
15 > it will take about 5 seconds to partition it.
16 > And a few more to mkfs it.
17
18 Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt
19 that it will take seconds to create a full-fledged
20 ext4 file system on these 5TB via USB2 connention.
21
22 Even more: my aquiantance from the Window world
23 that recomended me this disc scared me that it may
24 take days...
25
26 > Are you sure you aren't thinking of mkfs with ext2
27 > (which did take hours for a drive that size?
28 >
29 >>
30 >> For about 20 last years, following an advice of my older
31 >> colleague, I always partitioned all my hard drives into
32 >> the smaller logical ones and do very well know all
33 >> disadvantages of doing so. :)
34 >
35 > So you are following 20 year-old advice for hardware relevant to 20
36 > years ago and not taking tech advances into account ? :-)
37
38 Yes. But, please, take into account that after these 20 years
39 I decided to reconsider the old "rule of thumb." :)
40
41 >> But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big
42 >> hard drive into smaller logical ones?
43 >
44 > You only get 1 mount point
45 > Some ancient software might whinge and complain about not having a
46 > partition table present.
47 > The drive vendor no longer has a place to put their magic sekrit
48 > phone-home data collection stuff. Oh wait, that's a benefit and belongs
49 > below
50 >
51 >>
52 >> Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive
53 >> into smaller logical ones and why?
54 >
55 > The only reason to partition a drive is to get 2 or more
56 > smaller ones that differ somehow (size, inode ratio, mount options, etc)
57 >
58 > Go with no partition table by all means, but if you one day find you
59 > need one, you will have to copy all your data off, repartition, and copy
60 > your data back. If you are certain that will not happen (eg you will
61 > rather buy a second drive) then by all means dispense with partitions.
62 >
63 > They are after all nothing more than a Microsoft invention from the 80s
64 > so people could install UCSD Pascal next to MS-DOS
65
66 I definitely will not need more than one mount point for this hard drive
67 but I do remember some arguments that partitioning a large hard drive
68 into smaller logical ones gives me more safety in case a file system
69 suddenly will get corrupted because in this case I will loose my data
70 only on one of the logical partitions and not on the whole drive.
71
72 Is this argument still valid nowadays?

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