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Quoth the Willie Wong |
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> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:30:40AM -0700, Darren Kirby wrote: |
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> > > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be |
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> > > > different (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough? |
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> > > |
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> > > No, not good enough, as that doesn't matter at all. All that matters |
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> > > is, what's in the tree. And the latest stable version is 0.8, no matter |
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> > > what you think. The question remains: Why should a different version be |
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> > > offered? |
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> > Sorry Alexander, I just don't get where you're going with this. Version |
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> > 0.8 was released September 27, 2004! There have been 4 major new releases |
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> > since then, which include many bug fixes, and new and improved features. |
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> > 0.8 is old and busted, 0.9.3 is the new hotness! |
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> Guys, |
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> Just to prevent the heat from escalating, may I offer my observation |
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> that the two of you seems to be arguing about completely different |
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> things? |
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Heat? I'm not mad, just confused ;) |
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> Alexander (and I, likewise) probably misunderstood Darren's question |
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> from the start: when he posted, I thought his expectation that "emerge |
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> dir2ogg" should bring in a newer version than what was offered was a |
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> lack of understanding of how the portage tree works (well, some of my |
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> friends do actually think that the package management system [aptget, |
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> rpm, portage, etc.] would actually be smart enough to automatically |
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> go on the internet and find and install the latest version of a |
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> program, so I wouldn't put any misconception past human capacity). |
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Please note Willie, I am not the original poster. I jumped in here because I |
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wrote the script that the OP is asking about, and I agree the current stable |
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version is long outdated. |
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That said, I _do_ realize that the OP was asking a flawed question. I was |
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simply responding to Alexander: "Why do you think, that a different version |
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should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"?". |
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If he means "why should portage automatically go grab the newest upstream |
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version", then I agree with his implication: it shouldn't. That's not what he |
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wrote though. The wording of his comment reads like he is asking why portage |
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should offer a more current version of the software, which is the source of |
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my confusion. I don't think that anyone here will argue that the software in |
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portage should stagnate on versions years out of date. |
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> But it seems clear to me now that Darren is actually asking about |
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> whether it is polite to give the devs a gentle nudge, asking them |
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> to remove an old, buggy version of software from the portage tree |
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> and add/stablize newer, updated versions (and how to go about doing |
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> so if it is polite). |
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I already did give a gentle nudge ;) |
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> I am actually curious about the same thing: some of the packages that |
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> I use are also a year or two out of date, for the most part I can |
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> get around it by using overlays and third-party ebuilds, and I am |
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> making an effort to learn how to write ebuilds, but it would be nice |
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> to see those ebuilds committed to the official tree. |
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Open a bug (with severity 'enhancement') and ask for a version bump. If you |
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can write an ebuild that has been tested and works, even better... |
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> W |
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> -- |
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> Willie W. Wong |
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> wwong@××××××××××××××.edu 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, |
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> Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the |
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> number of bad proofs he has given. |
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-d |
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darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org |
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"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." |
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- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 |
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