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From: "Bruce Hill
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:38:03
Message-Id: 2037392466.632130.1331674505331.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( by "Canek Peláez Valdés"
1 On March 13, 2012 at 5:22 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
2 wrote:
3
4 > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr.
5 > <daddy@×××××××××××××××××××××.com> wrote:
6 > >
7 > >
8 > >
9 > > On March 13, 2012 at 4:27 PM "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
10 > > wrote:
11 > > <snip>
12 > >>
13 > >> "Fringe" programs will not require udev, or it will be optional; but
14 > >> the moment a "fringe" program reaches critical mass to become
15 > >> "maistream", the probability of it needing udev (directly or
16 > >> indirectly) will increase.
17 > >>
18 > >> I'm willing to bet a beer on that prediction.
19 > >>
20 > >> Regards.
21 > >> --
22 > >> Canek Peláez Valdés
23 > >
24 > >
25 > >
26 > > It _sounds_ like your definition of a "fringe" program is one that does
27 not
28 > > need udev; but when it becomes "mainstream" it will need udev. If not,
29 you
30 > > write us the definition of a "fringe" program and a "mainstream"
31 program.
32 > >
33 > > Excuse me, but that's just incredibly _arrogant_!
34 >
35 > Relax man. That's why "fringe" is written QUOTE fringe UNQUOTE, and
36 > "mainstream" is written QUOTE mainstream UNQUOTE. If it makes you
37 > happy, replace "fringe" with "GNOME/KDE/XFCE/lvm2-not-related" and
38 > "mainstream" with "GNOME/KDE/XFCE/lvm2-related". That's using the very
39 > same definition that Walter (the guy behind the mdev-instead-of-udev
40 > effort) used just three mails below (or above, depending on your email
41 > client).
42 >
43 > Please chill, no need to get all worked out.
44 >
45 > And I maintain my prediction.
46 >
47 > Regards.
48 > --
49 > Canek Peláez Valdés
50
51
52 So, what qualifies for "the moment a "fringe" program reaches critical mass
53 to become "maistream", the probability of it needing udev (directly or
54 indirectly) will increase."
55
56 Again, quoting _your_ definition.
57
58 I gave you examples of programs which have reached critical mass, which
59 don't require udev.
60
61 And, I'm not attaching your character, for I know you not ... just
62 attacking your FUD!
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