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From: "Yuri K. Shatroff" <yks-uno@××××××.ru>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:35:21
Message-Id: 5232F86F.3090909@yandex.ru
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE: unwanted dependencies by Alan McKinnon
1 On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote:
2 > On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
3 >> Hi people,
4 >>
5 >> I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1.
6 >> Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which
7 >
8 > No
9
10 Pity.
11
12 >> appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it
13 >> doesn't seem to help.
14 >> My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which
15 >> also brings along tons of other crap).
16 >
17 >
18 > The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back.
19
20 Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more
21 modular.
22
23 > It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build
24 > whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff
25 > to be built, and disable the function in System Settings.
26
27 Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got
28 to "extract" some additional functionality, as opposed to including it
29 when needed. A strange approach, all in all.
30
31 > What this in effect means is you spend an extra 20 minutes building and
32 > have a few more meg of disk space consumed by code than you never run.
33
34 I personally care little about the megs, but the moral effect. Thousands
35 of people posted much about these doubtful features and disabling them,
36 and asked not to include them into KDE base, but all effort was vain. In
37 trite words, KDE followed the windows way: we know better what you need...
38 (Okay, no offense.)
39 BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least,
40 the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a "server". Hey
41 to all localhost admins! :)
42
43 Thanks for clarification, Alan.
44
45 --
46 Best wishes,
47 Yuri K. Shatroff

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[gentoo-user] Re: KDE: unwanted dependencies Michael Palimaka <kensington@g.o>