Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aligning SSD partitions

[Dale]

Michael Mol wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@×××××.com>> wrote:
>
>     Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
>     > The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
>     >
>     >> The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or
>     using it
>     >> as
>     >> tmpfs, it is the same memory.  There is no difference.  That's the
>     >> whole
>     >> point.
>     > Feel free to take your own assumptions as undeniable truth. The
>     way the
>     > kernel work with memory is the key, of course.
>     >
>     > Now, as long as you blind yourself with statements like that,
>     I'm not
>     > going to respond anymore. I guess you need to make some basic
>     research.
>     >
>
>     I understand how the kernel uses memory.  That's why it doesn't matter
>     if you put portage's work directory on tmpfs or not.  I been using
>     Linux
>     for a pretty good long while now.  I have a pretty good
>     understanding of
>     it, especially the things that I use.
>
>     Respond or not, I know what I tested and what the results were.  They
>     were not just my tests and results either.
>
>
> Nobody is disagreeing with your test results. In fact, they're not
> even disagreeing with you that they mean what you think they mean
> within the context you're testing. They're disagreeing with your
> extrapolation of your results to other contexts. In short, all other
> things being equal, your test results work out for someone in the
> exact same circumstances as yourself...but there are a _lot_ of other
> things that need to be equal!
>
> Filesystem mount options can have an impact. For example, let's say
> your filesystem is configured to make writes synchronous, for general
> data integrity purposes. That would slow PORTAGE_TMP down something
> _fierce_.
>
> Someone might be tweaking any number of the knobs under 'vm' in /proc.
> vm.swappiness, vm.dirty_* or vm.min_free_kbytes are ones that caught
> my eye, but really most of them in there look relevant.
>
> Or consider that someone else might be running drop_caches, or even
> sync() while your code is running. (Heck, if there's a database, even
> an sqlite database, on the same filesystem, that's almost a guarantee.)
>
> These may seem to be obvious, but these are the kinds of things people
> were trying to get you to be willing to acknowledge before you made
> blanket assertions which covered them.
>
> --
> :wq


Someone could be getting rays from Mars but I am not testing that.  What
I tested was this,  Run emerge with portages work directory on disk. 
Then run same command with portage's work directory on tmpfs.  Then
compare the results.  No other changes except for where portage's work
directory is located, hard drive or ram.  This was done on a NORMAL
system that most ANY user would be using.  I'm not concerned with some
rare or exotic setup, just a normal setup.  If someone is running some
exotic setup, then they need to test that to see whether it helps or not
because I did not test for that sort of system.  I didn't test for rays
from Mars either.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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