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From: james <wireless@×××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 13:26:26
Message-Id: loom.20150917T151035-723@post.gmane.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power by Nikos Chantziaras
1 Nikos Chantziaras <realnc <at> gmail.com> writes:
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4 > However, note that PSUs tend to go bad after years of operation. An 8
5 > years old PSU might start losing power or voltage stability. If you see
6 > random machine resets or hangups, it's usually because the PSU is dying.
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8 Very true. However, if you are "handy with electrical wiring", DC voltage
9 analysis, live, is quite simple. Just monitor the voltage outputs, under
10 load with a "multi meter" and see if the voltages sags below the unload
11 rail (dc voltage level). Also the most common failure of PC style PS
12 is the fan and those can be changed for a few bucks. But electronics do age
13 and a good UPS will extend the life of your PS. UPS batteries, typical
14 a 7-10 Amp-hour are cheap to replace ever 2-4 years. Another simple way
15 to do this, and more cool, is the get an amp meter. Just convert the
16 wattage rating of the PS to an amp rating at a given voltage level. Clamp
17 around the power cord running to the PC and you can see the static (non
18 transient) voltage sag if it occurs as the amperage draw increases.
19 If you can find an old analog meter, with a needle on the dial, you can
20 see a transient energy draw by the fast movement of the needle on the dial.
21 Digital meters that can do this, or capture the traces (as in an
22 oscilloscope) are much more expensive, but makes for a fun lab to learn
23 about the operational characteristics of dynamic electrical energy flows.
24 (trying to keep this non-pedantic).
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29 > With that GPU, you don't need more than 400W. And the amps on the 12V
30 > rail are also not important, as that only comes into play with
31 > higher-end GPUs. Other features can still be important though, like
32 > protection against surges and such (think lightning strikes that can
33 > potentially damage your PC, or some PSU malfunction that could do the same.)
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36 True, but you are not considering transient voltage swings. If your rig
37 draws 350 W and you have a 400 W PS, you will get spikes and draw-downs
38 on the voltage during transient period of peak usage. This will kill a PS
39 over time, faster that if the 350W rig is running off a 500W supply.
40 Lots of quality capacitors in the PS minimize these effects. If the PS
41 is rated as extremely efficient (compared to other PS) then it has
42 better quality components inside the PS (they react faster to transients).
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44 caveat emptor! Size does matter for a long and happy life::
45 ;-)
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48 James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : case + power Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>