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On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> Canek Peláez Valdés writes: |
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>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> wrote: |
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>>> Recently, PulseAudio got installed. Seems like gnome-settings-daemon |
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>>> version 3 no longer has the pulseaudio use flag, so it wants pulseaudio, |
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>>> which needs alsa-plugins built with the pulseaudio use flag. I wouldn't |
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>>> mind using PulseAudio, but ist starts automatically when I play movies, |
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>>> and I get no sound output in mplayer or VLC. And there are weird side |
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>>> effects, sometimes playback stops, I have to make it run again by |
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>>> skipping back and forward. Sometimes videos play much faster than normal. |
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>> Is MPlayer using PulseAudio? Maybe if it did, the problem would go |
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>> away; I have this in my ~/.mplayer/config: |
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>> ao=pulse |
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>> For sure, VLC has an option to use PA by default also. |
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> Oh, I think it does, but there was no sound output. Sorry for not |
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> mentioning this. I had to switch manually to another sound device, HDA |
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> ATI something, I cannot look now because I am not near my desktop PC. |
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> If it would just work, then I could make my players use it if they don't |
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> already. But what about old applications like Quake3, will they still work? |
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Of course. I have been using PulseAudio since it became stable in |
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Gentoo (circa October 2010); in my experience, making everything sound |
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related going through PulseAudio makes everything work. Most modern |
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applications support directly PulseAudio; for the old ones that don't, |
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you can make all ALSA sound go through PulseAudio like this: |
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# cat /etc/asound.conf |
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pcm.!default { |
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type pulse |
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} |
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ctl.!default { |
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type pulse |
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} |
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(If you want it for all users; for your user only, use $HOME/.asoundrc). |
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>>> So I would like to get rid of it. Is this possible? I don't really use |
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>>> Gnome, but I like to have it to see how it develops. And I wouldn't like |
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>>> to remove it just because of a sound problem. |
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>> GNOME 3 depends (strongly, I think) on PulseAudio; you don't say which |
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>> version of GNOME are you using, but in GNOME 2 PA was optional. |
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> GNOME 3. I don't use it, but I wanted to look a little into its desktop |
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> philosophy. |
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But do you use gnome-session? If you are not using gnome-session, I |
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don't think you can see that much of its desktop philosophy. |
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>>> Maybe the PulseAudio problem is the same as I had with ALSA, I have two |
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>>> internal cards, and I had to tell ALSA not to prefer the SPDIF one. |
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>>> Maybe I have to do the same with PulseAudio, but I do not know how. |
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>> Try media-sound/pavucontrol; you can select which card the sounds goes |
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>> through, and which output to use (HDMI, for example). |
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> Thanks, I just installed it. It shows the HDMI device on top, and only |
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> this on has the green checkbox enabled. Maybe simply activating the |
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> analog port will make it run. I'll see this in a week days when I'm back |
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> at my PC. |
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>>> And |
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>>> the weird playback effects are spooky, I'd prefer to keep things as they |
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>>> are, at the moment I'm happy with plain ALSA. |
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>> I don't think it is possible to uninstall completely PA in GNOME 3; I |
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>> remember it was possible in GNOME 2. |
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> It got installed when I emerged GNOME 3, but until end of march |
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> alsa-plugins was not installed. Then pulseaudio went from 1.1-r1 to |
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> 1.99.2, since then it needs the alsa-plugins package, and my trouble |
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> started. |
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Mmmh? I have the latest GNOME 3.2, and I'm still using |
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media-sound/pulseaudio-1.1-r1. Perhaps you used autounmask? I would |
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try to go back to 1.1-r1; it's stable, after all, and GNOME doesn't |
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need the bleeding edge on PulseAudio. |
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>>> And what is starting the pulseaudio process? I can kill it, but it comes |
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>>> back the next time I run mplayer. Is there a way to just disable it? |
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>> If I recall correctly, the GNOME session manager will keep starting PA |
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>> if the daemon dies. |
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> Maybe I had a GNOME session running in parallel? I don't think so, but |
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> I'm not sure. |
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If you are trying to use any GNOME core technology (like GNOME Shell), |
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it will for sure start automatically gnome-session, I think. Some |
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applications can run without it, but many will try to connect to some |
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desktop session, and maybe some will actually start it. GNOME session |
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then will keep starting PulseAudio. |
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I don't understand how do you not use GNOME 3, but you want to see its |
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desktop philosophy. Do you run KDE or XFCE, and try to run the shell |
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on top of that? |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |