Re: [gentoo-user] package conflict on update

[Trenton Adams]

Interesting points, but

On 1/7/06, Abhay Kedia <abhay.ilugd@×××××.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 07 January 2006 22:00, Trenton Adams wrote:
> >
> > I'm just of the mind that we really should encourage it's use, while
> > encouraging people to also understand what's happening under the
> > hood.
> >
> ...and how do you suggest that should be done? There is tons of documentation
> available for user to read and know what is happening under the hood but no
> one wants to RTFM. Even this problem that you faced has been clearly
> explained along with its solution in "man emerge". How should Gentoo force a
> user to read the documentation and the man pages?

So, there's documentation that specifically explains that packages can
be split, and this can cause a conflict?  I tried to find that, after
I resolved the problem, but to no avail.  There is documentation on
conflicts in general.

Besides, this problem I ran into wasn't much of a problem, as I was
able to figure it out quite easily without documentation.  Personally,
I dont' need most of gentoo's documentation, as I've found it quite
easy to use, after learning and reading about a few basic things.  But
not everyone does.

>
> >
> > I like both that my car just works, and I don't have to know how the
> > pistons go up and down, but that I can also look under the hood if I so
> > desire.
> >
> Thinking on the wrong lines again and what you want can never happen, at least
> with Gentoo; because Gentoo does not give you a working car at all. It just
> gives you spare parts (ebuilds & packages), books to read (documentation) and
> a tool box (portage). Then it tells you to go ahead and make your own car. It
> totally depends on you whether you want to make it a blazing fast Ferrari or
> a classy Limo. To achieve anything of that sorts you *HAVE TO* know how the
> pistons go up and down. If you don't read and just put together the pieces in
> a random order then you might make a moving car but it will not be a working
> one. Moral of the story? To have full control, you gotta know how things work
> inside the engine :)

Well actually, it could happen.  If I had a menu of packages to be
installed during some sort of automated install process, then I'm
still customizing my system the way I want.  So once again, you
absolutely *CAN* have gentoo flexibility with easy of install, as an
example.  I never was referring to install, but that could be cleaned
up too. :)  You can think of this like a robotics assembly line that
will make anything that your heart desires FOR YOU.  Then, you can go
and look at the technical manuals to find out what happened.

>
> Regards,
> Abhay
>
>
>

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