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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 23:28:55
Message-Id: 55D905AD.4000406@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL. by Alan Grimes
1 Alan Grimes wrote:
2 > The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750.
3 >
4 > Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980
5 > gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also
6 > a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) .
7 > There is one optical drive and four chassis fans in the system. All fans
8 > are operating perfectly.
9 >
10 > As far as I know the operating conditions for the PSU are nearly ideal....
11 >
12 > I did have some noise issues with it a few years ago but it seemed to
13 > settle down and hasn't really given me any grief since.
14 >
15 >
16
17
18 That noise could be what the problem was. Just a example. A fan's
19 bearings starts making noise. Eventually, the bearings lock up and the
20 noise stops. Guess what, the fan has stopped too. Of course, the noise
21 is gone now but that doesn't mean the problem is gone does it? Odds
22 are, some component was making noise because it was under pressure or
23 age was catching up or whatever. When the noise stopped, it had likely
24 stopped working at all. This sounds like a capacitor to me. They will
25 make weird noises sometimes before they fail. I used to work on TVs a
26 lot years ago, you know, the old tube type stuff. Anyway, those caps
27 did all sorts of weird things. Some would swell up until they were
28 shaped like a hot air balloon or something. Some would blow out the
29 bottom and maybe even stink real bad. I've even seen some that blew the
30 metal can completely off and the TV is full of that sticky paper stuff,
31 which also stinks, and the foil part. Some just smoke and make a
32 hissing sound, then all heck breaks out in the TV. Usually it stops
33 filtering and the rest of the TV is now getting a unfiltered DC which is
34 about like A/C. Some components like those tubes don't like that much.
35 They tend to revolt. FET type components, when they go, they usually go
36 quick, with a bit of stink or smoke. Usually.
37
38 Yea, I'd be looking for a new power supply. Some of those on that last
39 link I posted aren't that expensive. Just calculate up what power you
40 need. I tend to add at least 50% to that, for future expansion and
41 start up power. Doubling it wouldn't hurt. It just means your P/S is
42 running at half power most of the time. On my current P/S, it is a 650
43 watt unit. According to my UPS, my entire computer system pulls about
44 150 watts idle and about 160 to 170 when compiling the crap out of
45 something like GCC, Libreoffice etc. Now that includes my monitor,
46 router, modem and speakers. If I were to guess, the puter itself only
47 pulls around 100 to 120 watts. My power supply has some overkill issues
48 for sure. I could likely easily use a 300 watt unit but would likely
49 replace with a 400 watt since they are more available. Technically, I
50 could use a 200 watt if the power supply was a well built model.
51
52 As it is, my power supply likely never even gets warm. Add in that it
53 is in a Cooler Master HAF-932 case and I'm sure the fan gets bored. The
54 key thing on power supplies. If you are going to buy cheap, buy big.
55 Cheapos tend to overrate themselves, sometimes a LOT. If you buy a well
56 known and well tested brand, it will likely deliver what it claims and
57 you can pick closer to your actual ratings. Of course, that cheapo P/S
58 will likely fail you at some point. That means risking losing a lot
59 more than just the P/S too. It could mean a new CPU, mobo, memory and
60 whatever else it takes with it. When cutting costs, protection is one
61 place to do it and by the time you realize it, it's to late. I've
62 bought cases with P/Ss built in. They get removed and disassembled for
63 little junky projects. I mostly get heat sinks and such since most of
64 the components aren't reliable anyway.
65
66 Hope you get this fixed soon.
67
68 Dale
69
70 :-) :-)

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