Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it?

On 07/16 01:58, Urs Schütz wrote:
> On 07/16/17 05:56, R0b0t1 wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:44 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
> > > On 07/16 03:12, R0b0t1 wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 2:11 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
> > > > > On 07/16 01:59, R0b0t1 wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:47 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > that drives my insane:
> > > > > > > While searching items for my DIY Nixie clock on aliexpress I get
> > > > > > > one certain popup with each new access to aliexpress asking
> > > > > > > me, whether I am new to aliexpress and offers me a coupon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no othe chance than clicking on this [beep] pop up
> > > > > > > to be able to see the page contents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I searched the web for according informations how to block
> > > > > > > this [beep] popup, but I only get informations how to
> > > > > > > remove a certain kind of adware virus from Mac and Windows.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since this virus pops up an advertisement of constantly changing
> > > > > > > goods and is page filling I am sure I am not suffering from this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If anyone out there has solved this problem without disabling
> > > > > > > the possibility to /buy/ something on aliexpress PLEASE HELP
> > > > > > > ME. I AM NEAR INSANITY! ;) :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks a lot in advance for any life saver!
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > Meino
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You might be able to block the element on the page using uBlock
> > > > > > Origin, but unfortunately that type of ad is very hard to remove. If
> > > > > > you have to interact with it is harder to select using uBlock's
> > > > > > interface.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can also use Greasemonkey to block more invasive ads, but I never
> > > > > > had much luck with that. It's designed to do more than filter
> > > > > > background content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I feel like I need to ask whether or not you've done something like
> > > > > > disable cookies. I'd not suggest doing that, at most delete all of
> > > > > > them when you close your browser session. It's impossible to use most
> > > > > > pages without having cookies enabled (this makes automating things
> > > > > > with web libraries infuriating).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R0b0t1.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi R0b0t1,
> > > > >
> > > > > For "normal browsing" I created a profile for firefox which is privacy
> > > > > enhanced -- blocking all sorts of things. This profile works half
> > > > > with the sites I normally visit.
> > > > > Aliexpress get screwed up when visited using this profile.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I created a second profile, which I use for Aliexpress only. This
> > > > > one has only some privacy related things enabled. Aliexpress works --
> > > > > including poping up this [beep] "Are you new to Aliexpress?" popup.
> > > > > Cookies are enabled with this profile.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does it do this on every page load or just the first time you interact with it?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I did the following:
> > > *** Surf to www.aliexpress.com (no popup and no way to search despite
> > > the fact that a search bar is shown.)
> > > *** Click on any product -- product will be displayed and popup pops
> > > up (hence the name), click the popup to remove it. Search bar now works.
> > > *** Click "reload tab"...the whole [beep] starts from the beginning.
> > >
> >
> > I've managed to block something similar using uBlock Origin, but it
> > was really hard to select it with the GUI picker that creates blocking
> > rules for you.
> >
> > The technical term for what the website is using is called a popover
> > and I remember people talking about blocking them with uBlock Origin
> > because they are hard to block, but I can't find anything relevant to
> > this discussion in Google.
> >
> > > > > As soon as I login into Aliexpress the popup disappears -- now
> > > > > Aliexpress is satisfied, because tracking my searches is now
> > > > > personalized.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you can't find a way to target the overlay with uBlock Origin you
> > > > might try looking at https://greasyfork.org/en and using Greasemonkey.
> > > > Unfortunately all the premade scripts I could find were simple things
> > > > like pricing changes.
> > >
> > > Why Greasemonkey is especially use ful in this case?
> > > (this is curiosity -- and NO expression of doubt, R0b0t1! :)
> > >
> >
> > Greasemonkey injects JavaScript onto your webpages based on filter
> > criteria, so you can effectively do anything your browser can do when
> > displaying the webpage. Some of the more impressive feats are
> > reengineered webpages that are better than the original service, most
> > of them are mundane and only alter a few values on a webpage.
> >
> > You can also use it for laser-guided adblocking if you need to.
> > Unfortunately Greasemonkey requires quite a bit of knowledge about
> > itself, web development, and the page you are trying to modify, so I
> > can't be of much help apropos.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > Its the same reason for why buying via Aliexpress App on a
> > > > > smartphone/tablet is cheaper than using a PC.
> > > > > I am using XPrivacy on my Android tablet which shows, blocks
> > > > > or allows ANY access to permissions like "Get your location"
> > > > > et cetera -- I instantly deleted that App after I saw, what this
> > > > > App wants to know.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's sad to see another website doing this. There's a few that make it
> > > > all but impossible to use the service without logging in or supplying
> > > > information one way or another. If the creator of the website doesn't
> > > > want you to use it, I'm not sure there's a lot that can ultimately be
> > > > done about it.
> > > >
> > > > In a similar vein, my phone now displays advertising. The state of
> > > > computing has me despondent.
> > >
> > >    For your phone: Root it, install XPosed/XPosedInstaller, install XPrivacy, install
> > >    Bootmanager, install PreventRunning, install AFWall -- and your
> > >    phone is yours again. Buying XPrivacy is worth every cent (it is
> > >    cheap!) and it can be bought directly by its developer Marcel
> > >    Bokhorst via Mony transfer -- no need to feed Google again!
> > >
> > >    For more drop me a PM.
> > >
> >
> > I might take you up on your offer but the main issue is my phone isn't
> > a flagship device so I can't expect a ROM to exist for it. I suppose
> > I'll check.
> >
> > R0b0t1.
> >
>
> AdblockPlus, "Select an element to hide". Selecting the red window with the
> mouse will add something like this to the blocking list:
> aliexpress.com##.ui-window.ui-window-normal.ui-window-transition.ui-newuser-layer-dialog
> and
> aliexpress.com##.newuser-container
>
> Urs
>
>

Hi Urs,

thanks a lot for the hint!

But.,..

...take a look into the so called "privacy" policy of AdPlus.org (or
whatever those think "privacy" means):

From: https://adblockplus.org/privacy

cite:
Collection and processing on AdblockPlus.org
When using AdblockPlus.org, we automatically collect the following data in order to provide you with our services, and for security reasons:

A list and explanations follows ...

As previously mentioned "anonymiyed data" is a joke in the post Orwell
era of today.


Cheers,
Meino