Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: "New to aliexpress" pop up - how to block it?

[Urs Schütz]

On 07/16/17 14:08, tuxic@××××××.de wrote:
> On 07/16 01:58, Urs Schütz wrote:
>> On 07/16/17 05:56, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 3:44 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
>>>> On 07/16 03:12, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 2:11 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/16 01:59, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 1:47 AM,  <tuxic@××××××.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that drives my insane:
>>>>>>>> While searching items for my DIY Nixie clock on aliexpress I get
>>>>>>>> one certain popup with each new access to aliexpress asking
>>>>>>>> me, whether I am new to aliexpress and offers me a coupon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have no othe chance than clicking on this [beep] pop up
>>>>>>>> to be able to see the page contents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the web for according informations how to block
>>>>>>>> this [beep] popup, but I only get informations how to
>>>>>>>> remove a certain kind of adware virus from Mac and Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since this virus pops up an advertisement of constantly changing
>>>>>>>> goods and is page filling I am sure I am not suffering from this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If anyone out there has solved this problem without disabling
>>>>>>>> the possibility to /buy/ something on aliexpress PLEASE HELP
>>>>>>>> ME. I AM NEAR INSANITY! ;) :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot in advance for any life saver!
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Meino
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might be able to block the element on the page using uBlock
>>>>>>> Origin, but unfortunately that type of ad is very hard to remove. If
>>>>>>> you have to interact with it is harder to select using uBlock's
>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can also use Greasemonkey to block more invasive ads, but I never
>>>>>>> had much luck with that. It's designed to do more than filter
>>>>>>> background content.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel like I need to ask whether or not you've done something like
>>>>>>> disable cookies. I'd not suggest doing that, at most delete all of
>>>>>>> them when you close your browser session. It's impossible to use most
>>>>>>> pages without having cookies enabled (this makes automating things
>>>>>>> with web libraries infuriating).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R0b0t1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi R0b0t1,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For "normal browsing" I created a profile for firefox which is privacy
>>>>>> enhanced -- blocking all sorts of things. This profile works half
>>>>>> with the sites I normally visit.
>>>>>> Aliexpress get screwed up when visited using this profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I created a second profile, which I use for Aliexpress only. This
>>>>>> one has only some privacy related things enabled. Aliexpress works --
>>>>>> including poping up this [beep] "Are you new to Aliexpress?" popup.
>>>>>> Cookies are enabled with this profile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it do this on every page load or just the first time you interact with it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did the following:
>>>> *** Surf to www.aliexpress.com (no popup and no way to search despite
>>>> the fact that a search bar is shown.)
>>>> *** Click on any product -- product will be displayed and popup pops
>>>> up (hence the name), click the popup to remove it. Search bar now works.
>>>> *** Click "reload tab"...the whole [beep] starts from the beginning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've managed to block something similar using uBlock Origin, but it
>>> was really hard to select it with the GUI picker that creates blocking
>>> rules for you.
>>>
>>> The technical term for what the website is using is called a popover
>>> and I remember people talking about blocking them with uBlock Origin
>>> because they are hard to block, but I can't find anything relevant to
>>> this discussion in Google.
>>>
>>>>>> As soon as I login into Aliexpress the popup disappears -- now
>>>>>> Aliexpress is satisfied, because tracking my searches is now
>>>>>> personalized.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't find a way to target the overlay with uBlock Origin you
>>>>> might try looking at https://greasyfork.org/en and using Greasemonkey.
>>>>> Unfortunately all the premade scripts I could find were simple things
>>>>> like pricing changes.
>>>>
>>>> Why Greasemonkey is especially use ful in this case?
>>>> (this is curiosity -- and NO expression of doubt, R0b0t1! :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Greasemonkey injects JavaScript onto your webpages based on filter
>>> criteria, so you can effectively do anything your browser can do when
>>> displaying the webpage. Some of the more impressive feats are
>>> reengineered webpages that are better than the original service, most
>>> of them are mundane and only alter a few values on a webpage.
>>>
>>> You can also use it for laser-guided adblocking if you need to.
>>> Unfortunately Greasemonkey requires quite a bit of knowledge about
>>> itself, web development, and the page you are trying to modify, so I
>>> can't be of much help apropos.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Its the same reason for why buying via Aliexpress App on a
>>>>>> smartphone/tablet is cheaper than using a PC.
>>>>>> I am using XPrivacy on my Android tablet which shows, blocks
>>>>>> or allows ANY access to permissions like "Get your location"
>>>>>> et cetera -- I instantly deleted that App after I saw, what this
>>>>>> App wants to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's sad to see another website doing this. There's a few that make it
>>>>> all but impossible to use the service without logging in or supplying
>>>>> information one way or another. If the creator of the website doesn't
>>>>> want you to use it, I'm not sure there's a lot that can ultimately be
>>>>> done about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a similar vein, my phone now displays advertising. The state of
>>>>> computing has me despondent.
>>>>
>>>>     For your phone: Root it, install XPosed/XPosedInstaller, install XPrivacy, install
>>>>     Bootmanager, install PreventRunning, install AFWall -- and your
>>>>     phone is yours again. Buying XPrivacy is worth every cent (it is
>>>>     cheap!) and it can be bought directly by its developer Marcel
>>>>     Bokhorst via Mony transfer -- no need to feed Google again!
>>>>
>>>>     For more drop me a PM.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I might take you up on your offer but the main issue is my phone isn't
>>> a flagship device so I can't expect a ROM to exist for it. I suppose
>>> I'll check.
>>>
>>> R0b0t1.
>>>
>>
>> AdblockPlus, "Select an element to hide". Selecting the red window with the
>> mouse will add something like this to the blocking list:
>> aliexpress.com##.ui-window.ui-window-normal.ui-window-transition.ui-newuser-layer-dialog
>> and
>> aliexpress.com##.newuser-container
>>
>> Urs
>>
>>
>
> Hi Urs,
>
> thanks a lot for the hint!
>
> But.,..
>
> ...take a look into the so called "privacy" policy of AdPlus.org (or
> whatever those think "privacy" means):
>
> From: https://adblockplus.org/privacy
>
> cite:
> Collection and processing on AdblockPlus.org
> When using AdblockPlus.org, we automatically collect the following data in order to provide you with our services, and for security reasons:
>
> A list and explanations follows ...
>
> As previously mentioned "anonymiyed data" is a joke in the post Orwell
> era of today.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Meino
>
>
>

I do not see anything surprising in the AdblockPlus privacy policy. 
Which points bother you? Maybe I did not look close enough...

Urs