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From: BRM <bm_witness@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 14:07:19
Message-Id: 724850.16157.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset by Alan McKinnon
1 ----- Original Message ----
2
3 > From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
4 > To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
5 > Cc: dhk <dhkuhl@×××××××××.net>
6 > Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:34:02 AM
7 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
8 >
9 > Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
10 > opine thusly:
11 >
12 > > On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
13 > > > Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
14 > > >
15 > > > opine thusly:
16 > > >> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
17 > > >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
18 > > >> the alternative?
19 > > >>
20 > > >> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
21 > > >> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
22 > > >>
23 > > >> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
24 > > >> message is displayed.
25 > > >>
26 > > >> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
27 > > >> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
28 > > >> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
29 > > >> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@g.o> (04 Oct 2010)
30 > > >> # on behalf of QA team
31 > > >> #
32 > > >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
33 > > >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
34 > > >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
35 > > >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
36 > > >> #
37 > > >> # Removal on 2010-12-03
38 > > >>
39 > > >> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
40 > > >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
41 > > >>
42 > > >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
43 > > >> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
44 > > >> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
45 > > >> projects?
46 > > >
47 > > > The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It
48 is
49 > > > autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
50 > > >
51 > > > It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and
52 > > > read the message.
53 > > >
54 > > > You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
55 > > > is not the same thing.
56 > > >
57 > > >> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
58 > > >> masked.
59 > > >>
60 > > >> # emerge --search autotoolset
61 > > >> Searching...
62 > > >> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
63 > > >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
64 > > >>
65 > > >> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
66 > > >>
67 > > >> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
68 > > >> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
69 > > >> Size of files: 1,133 kB
70 > > >> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
71 > > >> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
72 > > >>
73 > > >> development with autotools
74 > > >>
75 > > >> License: GPL-2
76 > > >>
77 > > >> What to do now?
78 > > >
79 > > > Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
80 > > > removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
81 > >
82 > > So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
83 > > automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
84 > > all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
85 > > difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
86 >
87 >
88 > autotools != autotoolset
89 >
90 > The description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
91 >
92 > Run "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for
93 > yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local
94 > overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
95
96 Reading over the website it seems almost as if it is a fork of GNU autotools.
97
98 http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
99
100 But to the original question - if they do not remain installed then you can
101 always install them individually as well.
102
103 Ben

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