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From: dhk <dhkuhl@×××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:03:55
Message-Id: 4CAD7E4A.8050801@optonline.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset by BRM
1 On 10/05/2010 10:01 AM, BRM wrote:
2 > ----- Original Message ----
3 >
4 >> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
5 >> To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
6 >> Cc: dhk <dhkuhl@×××××××××.net>
7 >> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:34:02 AM
8 >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
9 >>
10 >> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
11 >> opine thusly:
12 >>
13 >>> On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
14 >>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did
15 >>>>
16 >>>> opine thusly:
17 >>>>> What should I do about dev-util/autotoolset? I use it every day for a
18 >>> >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it. What is
19 >>>>> the alternative?
20 >>>>>
21 >>>>> In my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
22 >>>>> unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
23 >>>>>
24 >>>>> After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
25 >>> >> message is displayed.
26 >>>>>
27 >>>>> !!! The following installed packages are masked:
28 >>>>> - dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
29 >>>>> /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
30 >>>>> # Diego E. Pettenò <flameeyes@g.o> (04 Oct 2010)
31 >>>>> # on behalf of QA team
32 >>>>> #
33 >>> >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
34 >>> >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
35 >>> >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
36 >>> >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
37 >>>>> #
38 >>>>> # Removal on 2010-12-03
39 >>>>>
40 >>>>> For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
41 >>> >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
42 >>>>>
43 >>> >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?" Is it
44 >>>>> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...? Also, what's getting removed on
45 >>>>> 2010-12-03? If autotoolset is removed, what should be used to build
46 >>>>> projects?
47 >>>>
48 >>>> The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It
49 > is
50 >>>> autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
51 >>>>
52 >>>> It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your fright, and
53 >>>> read the message.
54 >>>>
55 >>>> You do not need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
56 >>>> is not the same thing.
57 >>>>
58 >>>>> Even though I have autotoolset installed, search shows it as being
59 >>>>> masked.
60 >>>>>
61 >>>>> # emerge --search autotoolset
62 >>>>> Searching...
63 >>>>> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
64 >>> >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
65 >>>>>
66 >>>>> * dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
67 >>>>>
68 >>>>> Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
69 >>>>> Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
70 >>>>> Size of files: 1,133 kB
71 >>>>> Homepage: http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
72 >>>>> Description: colection of small tools to simplify project
73 >>> >>
74 >>>>> development with autotools
75 >>>>>
76 >>> >> License: GPL-2
77 >>> >>
78 >>>>> What to do now?
79 >>>>
80 >>>> Why are you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
81 >>>> removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
82 >>>
83 >>> So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have autoconf,
84 >>> automake, and the rest; and everything will work the same? I thought
85 >>> all the autotools were in autotoolset. I guess I don't know the
86 >>> difference between autotools and autotoolset and what they are made up of.
87 >>
88 >>
89 >> autotools != autotoolset
90 >>
91 >> The description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
92 >>
93 >> Run "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for
94 >> yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local
95 >> overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
96 >
97 > Reading over the website it seems almost as if it is a fork of GNU autotools.
98 >
99 > http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
100 >
101 > But to the original question - if they do not remain installed then you can
102 > always install them individually as well.
103 >
104 > Ben
105 >
106 >
107 >
108
109 I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the
110 case. It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir. If
111 I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back? Even though it's not
112 necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project.
113
114 Thanks,
115
116 dhk

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Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset Willie Wong <wwong@××××××××××××××.EDU>