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From: Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:15:50
Message-Id: 5247550D.5010200@gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 by Neil Bothwick
1 Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:31:57 -0500, Dale wrote:
3 >
4 >> One thing that you seem to be missing here. Before Gentoo, I used
5 >> Mandrake. It had a init thingy. It caused me much grief and is one
6 >> reason I left Mandrake. I also didn't like the upgrade process either
7 >> but one reason I chose Gentoo is no init thingy. I wanted to be rid of
8 >> that. Now, whether it is udev or not, here comes that stupid init
9 >> thingy just because someone doesn't want to put files where they should
10 >> be which is not inside /usr.
11 >
12 > Mandrake used an initrd, not the same as an initramfs, which is directly
13 > supported by the kernel.
14 >
15
16 Whichever. Same shoes, different color is all.
17
18 >
19 >> So, given my history with the init thingy, if I do use a init thingy and
20 >> it fails for whatever reason, I'll be installing something else.
21 >
22 > Good luck trying to find something else that doesn't use an init*.
23 >
24 >
25
26 Thing is, those others are a LOT faster to install. Heck, I got
27 Mandrake down to like 30 minutes from booting CD to booting off the hard
28 drive and logging in and that was a COMPLETE install too. I installed
29 Kubuntu for my brother and while not Gentoo, he doesn't have issues.
30 Kubuntu takes care of the init thingy, NOT ME. If it did break,
31 reinstall and go back to surfing. It fails on Gentoo, I'm stuck. I'm
32 installing something and it won't be spending a good day to two days
33 installing Gentoo.
34
35 It seems folks think I just don't like new stuff. I don't mind new
36 stuff. I use new stuff quite often. I just don't like using stuff that
37 breaks, switching to something else to get away from it, then turn right
38 around and have the same broken junk thrown back at me. One downside
39 for Gentoo in that case, the install takes tiime and effort. It's not
40 point and click. I love Gentoo but I'm not in love with installing on a
41 regular basis whenever something breaks and I can't fix it or get booted
42 to where I can at least try to find out HOW to fix it. That is the key
43 problem. If I can't boot, I can't google or post here or anywhere
44 else. I know how to fix that tho. I'm sure I can find something that
45 will boot in somewhat short order. Question is, what will it be?
46
47 Dale
48
49 :-) :-)
50
51 --
52 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
53 how you interpreted my words!

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Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>