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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:15:41 -0500, Dale wrote: |
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> Neil Bothwick wrote: |
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> > Mandrake used an initrd, not the same as an initramfs, which is |
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> > directly supported by the kernel. |
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> Whichever. Same shoes, different color is all. |
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Read the kernel docs on initramfs, you'll then understand that this is |
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not true. |
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> > Good luck trying to find something else that doesn't use an init*. |
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> Thing is, those others are a LOT faster to install. Heck, I got |
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> Mandrake down to like 30 minutes from booting CD to booting off the hard |
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> drive and logging in and that was a COMPLETE install too. I installed |
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> Kubuntu for my brother and while not Gentoo, he doesn't have issues. |
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> Kubuntu takes care of the init thingy, NOT ME. If it did break, |
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> reinstall and go back to surfing. It fails on Gentoo, I'm stuck. I'm |
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> installing something and it won't be spending a good day to two days |
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> installing Gentoo. |
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Except you can never break Gentoo with a kernel update because, unlike |
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some other distros, installing a new kernel does not uninstall the |
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previous one. No matter how badly wrng a kernel update goes, you can |
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always hit reset then select the old one from the GRUB menu - |
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reinstallation doesn't come into it. |
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> It seems folks think I just don't like new stuff. I don't mind new |
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> stuff. I use new stuff quite often. I just don't like using stuff that |
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> breaks, switching to something else to get away from it, then turn right |
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> around and have the same broken junk thrown back at me. |
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Except it's not the same. How long ago did you switch? You've been around |
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here for a while, I suspect your Mandrake experience with with a 2.4 |
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kernel, which didn't have initramfs available, and initrd. The 2.6 |
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kernel's initramfs was developed to address the problems with initrds. |
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This isn't even as close as comparing apples and oranges. |
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> I'm sure I can find something that |
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> will boot in somewhat short order. Question is, what will it be? |
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vmlinuz.old :) |
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Neil Bothwick |
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Power outage at a department store yesterday, Twenty people were |
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trapped on the escalators. |