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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:13:14 -0500 |
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Joe Menola wrote: |
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> On Sunday August 14 2005 4:38 pm, Nick Rout wrote: |
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> > Unstable does not really cut it IMHO. I am a gentoo enthusiast through |
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> > and through, but plonking something in portage with a ~ beside it does |
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> > not constitute a release of a recent version IMHO. |
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> Can you name any version of Linux where version upgrades go directly into |
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> stable? |
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> It's all about choice...the "latest n greatest" or "tried n true". |
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> And that's how it is in any flavor of Linux I've tried, LFS included. |
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I am not challenging anything of what the "biters" have said in relation |
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to my post. I know the need for testing and i know that many people |
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successfully run ~x86 systems for the latest and greatest. |
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However, when I first used gentoo I was always the first in my LUG to |
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have the latest kde, evolution, mplayer etc, and that was running x86 |
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not ~x86. My perception is that gentoo is no longer first off the block |
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with stable releases. |
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I also realise that this is in no small part due to the huge increase in |
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the number of packages in portage, the growing complexity of package and |
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dependency management as both the tree and the "bloat" of complex |
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software grows. |
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However I also see constant complaints of people who contribute ebuilds |
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for new versions or new packages to bugzilla and then have them sit |
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there for months without any activity at all. |
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Myself, I love gentoo and this is not a complaint, merely an observation |
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that things are no longer as they were, and that there appear to be some |
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factors slowing down the progression of packages in their path from |
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bugzilla to stable. Maybe this is because the concepts of choice in |
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gentoo lead to an environment where it is harder to track all possible |
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combinations of those choices. After all if there were 50 use variables |
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[1] there are 2^50 combinations of those variables being off or on. |
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Combine that with variations to architecture, CFLAGS and whatever else |
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you can configure and you have a much tougher development environment |
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than one where everything is compiled into "we decide what you get" |
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binaries. |
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[1] i have no idea how many there are. |
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Cheers. |
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> -jm |
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