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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files?
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:53:34
Message-Id: 20100211165308.7d60980d@digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? by Walter Dnes
1 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:31:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
2
3 > > Because nine years ago, Linux desktop software didn't use
4 > > interprocess communication. Of course things will still work, but not
5 > > necessarily everything. For example, Network Manager uses D-Bus to
6 > > tell programs when your Internet connection is available and not, so
7 > > your mail client goes into offline mode rather than pointlessly
8 > > trying to access your mailbox. KDE4 uses it quite extensively, ust as
9 > > KDE3 used DCOP.
10 >
11 > There is too much solution-in-search-of-a-problem here.
12
13 Hardly, IPC is harrdly new, the amiga was doing ti 25 years ago and
14 shortly after that it became available to user scripts.
15
16 > XMMS followed
17 > the original Unix philosophy... it did one thing did it right, namely
18 > playing audio.
19
20 Yes, and if you have a number of programs, each doing one job only, they
21 need to be able to communicate in order to do the larger job. Imagine a
22 building site where the bricklayers, plasterers, electricians an
23 plumbers didn't talk to each other or the project manager.
24
25 In a shall, pipes can be used for IPC, but that doesn't work on a desktop
26 so something else was needed. This has always been true, all that is
27 new(ish) is that D-Bus is now the something else, and it is a global
28 standard. DCOP was good, but it only worked with KDE programs, D-Bus
29 means that your system is just that and not a bunch of programs each
30 going their own way, ignoring each other and duplicating effort. If you
31 want an OS like that, I hear they produce one in Redmond.
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35 Neil Bothwick
36
37 If it isn't broken, I can fix it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How the HAL are you supposed to use these files? Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>