Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel options and udisk

[Michael Mol]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 16:18:34 schrieb Dale:
>>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>> Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012, 01:51:49 schrieb Dale:
>>>>> Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/18/2012 11:03 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>>>> And every day I hear about them finding more oil and gas that they
>>>>>> didn't know was there before.
>>>> I am sure everybody would love to hear about those findings. Especially
>>>> the
>>>> CEO's of BP, Shell etc.
>>> Actually, the former CEO of Shell was on Fox Business not long ago
>>> talking about some HUGE finds.  He said that we, the USA, are sitting on
>>> some of the largest oil fields.  Here is one article I found but not
>>> sure this is the same one the Shell guy was talking about since this
>>> article is a few months old.
>>>
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2012-05-15/1A-COV-ENER
>>> GY-INDEPENDENCE/54977254/1
>>>
>>> Quoting from that:
>>>
>>> "It's no pipe dream. The U.S. is already the world's fastest-growing oil
>>> and natural gas producer. Counting the output from Canada and Mexico,
>>> North America
>>> <http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Places,+Geography/Regions/North+Am
>>> erica> is "the new Middle East," Citigroup analysts declare in a recent
>>> report."
>>>
>>> Note it said fastest growing producer.  You have to find it and be able
>>> to get it up before you can produce it.  Yea, one day we will run out
>>> but that's a good long ways off.  We could get hit by some asteroid or
>>> something that just completely destroys the planet and everything on it,
>>> including all that oil and gas that people want to save up on.
>>>
>>> Have you heard about the new wells being drilled in North Dakota by any
>>> chance?  They are drilling for oil like crazy up there.  That is just
>>> one that I recall seeing on the news a good bit recently.  There are
>>> plenty of other finds.
>> I also heard about gas in drinking water thanks to fracking. Do oil companies
>> drilling in deep water because it is cheap, save and fun? Or do they want to
>> go and drill in the Arktis because it is so lovely there? Hardly. There is a
>> difference between 'something is there' and 'the prize and risk are worth it'.
>> Do you remember that Gulf incident? BP surely hopes not. You should get used
>> to it.
>>
>> and here:
>> http://oilsandstruth.org/world-running-out-oil-says-exceo
>>
>
> I also remember the people that died trying to go to the moon but we did
> it anyway.  I have heard a lot of people talking about fracking and all
> sort of myths about it.  I have not seen proof that is in drinking
> water.  Even so, I have a well that we drove here and we drank off it
> for years.  It has a HUGE iron count and turns white clothes orange.
> There is always something in water.  It's just what water does.  That is
> why it gets filtered before it is used for drinking.  By the way,
> fracking has been around for something like 60 years.  Not all the oil
> that has been found recently requires fracking either.  So, don't just
> point to fracking and then claim that all oil is bad.
>
> The website you linked to is against oil from my google search.  It
> would be like quoting Al Gore for global warming, climate change or
> whatever they call it this week.
>
>>>> Fact is, we are running out. The stuff that is found is either very hard
>>>> to get - or not very much. Oh, and very little to start with. Consider
>>>> current consumption.
>>> Fact is, the same could be said for the Sun too.  Science already says
>>> it will run out of fuel one day.
>> And now you went full stupid. There is a difference between 'a couple of
>> decades' and '4 billion years'. But thanks for posting. That said a lot about
>> you. I don't even care about the rest of your posting. This is plonk worthy
>> stupid. So I stop right there, I don't want to get any of that.
>>
>
> Care to explain away that we could get hit my some asteroid too?
> Yellowstone could erupt again and kill us all.  Better get your "I'm
> scared of everything" hat on.
>
> Who knows it is a couple decades?  That was the thinking years ago
> BEFORE finding all the new reserves of gas and oil.
>
> Careful calling someone stupid.  It could come back and name calling on
> the list is not a good thing.  You should know better.


Guys, this fell into politics, one of those categories of things you
don't discuss in polite company. Not that I'm accusing anyone of being
polite, it's just that these aren't issues that can generally be
resolved, and it's certainly not something that comes anywhere close
to being on-topic here.

Now, could we go back to discussing software, packages, electronics
and amplifiers? I found that portion of the thread utterly
fascinating...

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