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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server?
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:30:49
Message-Id: 20121214152403.6ad0160c@khamul.example.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server? by Grant
1 On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:00:54 -0800
2 Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > > > Would everyone here be in favor of a dedicated server over a cloud
5 > > > server from a host with good cloud infrastructure? The cloud
6 > > > server concept is amazing but from what I'm reading a dedicated
7 > > > server at the same price point far outperforms it.
8 > > >
9 > > > - Grant
10 > >
11 > > Last time I did the calculation, a dedicated or normal virtualized
12 > > infrastructure was more cost effective as long as you could
13 > > accurately predict the performance you need.
14 > >
15 > > Cloud services only really help if you need a high dynamic range
16 > > regarding scale and performance, e.g. a service that could get a
17 > > lot of new users very fast or is only really active for short time
18 > > spans.
19 >
20 > Doesn't a good cloud server also have potentially higher availability
21 > compared to dedicated?
22
23 Potentially? Yes.
24
25 In reality? No.
26
27 It's not the virtualization that breaks, it's all the surrounding
28 infrastructure, especially Layer 2. You will not believe how fragile
29 that stuff can get.
30
31 In the old days, a small slip up could isolate a small part of the
32 network. These days, a small slip-up easily ripples though the entire
33 network and takes down all of it, and sadly this is not rare. The
34 networking needs of VMs are radically different from the traditional,
35 and this is the side-effect: fragility.
36
37
38 --
39 Alan McKinnon
40 alan.mckinnon@×××××.com

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server? Bruce Hill <daddy@×××××××××××××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} dedicated server or cloud server? Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com>