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Peter Humphrey writes: |
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> On Tuesday 28 February 2012 11:23:40 Alex Schuster wrote: |
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> > Peter Humphrey writes: |
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> > > Now can anyone tell me why clicking the first link in this e-mail |
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> > > opened it in Konqueror and the second in Firefox? |
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> > Because KDE is so weird all over the place. |
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> Well I just hope the team get it sorted out soon. |
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I'm waiting since KDE 4.2. And I believe it will never happen. Yes, |
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things are getting better, and more things get fixed than break by |
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updates. But still KDE4 has so many bugs and annoyances, nearly every day |
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some weird things happen. |
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> I can't stand any of |
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> the Gnomes and the lighter desktops are just too thin on features. |
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Me too. I _like_ KDE. If only things were more stable. I do not need any |
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new features, I'd prefer the existing ones to work as they should. |
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Look at Dolphin for example, the file manager. I expect such a thing to |
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just work. But until 4.8 it didn't, it had some bugs that made it nearly |
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unusable for me. Like the effect that after dragging files to a 2nd |
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panel, Dolphin acted as if the mouse button was pressed, marking all |
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files, and scrolling till the end when the mouse leaves the Dolphin |
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window. Believe me, this is very annoying when copying/moving many files |
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around. And don't press del to delete the files you copied, you might |
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put all files in that directory to the trash. |
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The scrolling behaviour was also annoying, I drag a file to the |
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destination folder, which is near the top, and just when I release, the |
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folder started to scroll away and the file is moved into another folder. |
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Both bugs seem to be fixed in 4.8, and now Dolphin is better than the |
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Windows XP explorer, finally. |
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Of course, there was another bug introduced, couldn't reproduce it yet, |
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and it does not happen often. All stuff scrolls down to the bottom then, |
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I cannot scroll up, but with wild clicking on all mouse buttons it |
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finally stops. |
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Another example of these weird problems, just because it happened today: |
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I copied 100 MB via FTP using Dolphin. Then I got an error dialog, there |
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was a problem writing the file. Dolphin did not update the content, so I |
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could not see how far the upload went. After some F5 pressing, it said |
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"internal error, please send a detailed bug report". |
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Seems there was a problem renaming the file after download, I had to |
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remove the '.part' suffix manually. |
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No big deal, but such problems happen all over the time when I use KDE |
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applications. Some errors are reproduceable, and I can avoid them, but |
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many things just happen once. |
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If you are an experienced user, you can live with that - as I said, I |
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still like KDE, and its great features. But for the inexperienced user |
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like my mom KDE is totally unusable, as very basic features often do not |
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work. Like, logging out. I put Gnome on her notebook, so I do not have to |
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help her every day when yet another problem arises. |
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> > > I can't see any material difference between the two links. |
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> > Yes, there is none. |
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> > This doesn't happen here, but I'm using the new KMail. |
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> I'm not going to that version until it works. It was only careful |
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> backing up that avoided losing half my e-mails. As it was, the basic |
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> functions of an e- mail client were almost completely absent. |
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I'm using Claws mainly, and KMail2 for stuff like encryption or local |
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mail folders that I did not (yet?) spend the time to set up with Claws. I |
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migrated KDEPIM stuff for three times, and it never worked well, and |
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always took me hours at least to get a working setup. This is just |
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unbelieveable. And I can be happy, because I did not lose any mails - |
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probably because I use IMAP only. |
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And this is so sad. Generally, I like the idea of Akonadi. And I see |
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some advantages - for example, Claws does not respond while it is checking |
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for new mails, and it seems to do this so very often just when I want to |
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see a new mail. KDE does this in the background. But there are far too |
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many problems with this. So many people were bitten by this. And email is |
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such an important issue. BTW, since 4.8, at every login I get messages |
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that some calendar stuff did not get configured, migrated or whatever. |
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Good thing I don't use it much, so I just do not care. But would I really |
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entrust my important personal data to KDEPIM applications? Probably not. |
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Wonko |
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