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From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 05:41:38
Message-Id: CAG2nJkMPShrmB12A74EDc13JOXJRZ5t5gH8sLoajeXSqex_P=g@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Walter Dnes
1 On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org> wrote:
2 >> I usally use ext4 as filesystem.
3 >>
4 >> # lsmod|grep ext
5 >> ext3 100768 0
6 >> jbd 39586 1 ext3
7 >> ext2 49572 0
8 >> ext4 263621 1
9 >> crc16 1255 2 ext4,bluetooth
10 >> mbcache 4450 3 ext2,ext3,ext4
11 >> jbd2 48679 1 ext4
12 >>
13 >> Isn't great what an initramfs can do?
14 >
15 > In this case, initramfs is your root filesystem, from which you load
16 > another fs and then transfer (pivot root?) to it. You have to build
17 > initramfs support into the kernel, to boot an initramfs. So my argument
18 > still stands, regardless of whether your *INITIAL* filesystem is ext4fs,
19 > or ZFS, or initramfs, that *INITIAL* filesystem has to be built into the
20 > kernel. Also, I really wonder what the point is in having to use
21 > initramfs on a system where /usr is part of /.
22
23 It allows you to keep some kernel bits in modules. If ever you change your mind
24 on whether to include / exclude / reconfigure those kernel bits in the
25 future, your
26 kernel recompile will take a lot, lot, shorter.
27
28 Case in point - do you enable all the ext4 options, like acls and
29 whatnot? Let's say no.
30
31 What if you suddenly have to mount an external hard disk to recover some system
32 on your server and the hard disk uses those ext4 options? If ext4 is
33 hard built into your
34 kernel, your recompile will have to basically redo the whole thing,
35 whereas if ext4
36 was a module you would only recompile ext4 itself.
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Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>