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From: Trenton Adams <trenton.d.adams@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 08:50:00
Message-Id: 9b1675090607230142m295cf441hda16b6c0e29b08f6@mail.gmail.com
1 Hi guys,
2
3 I proposed this awhile back, and got shot down. At the time, the
4 arguments for using SVN for portage storage were pretty shallow, and
5 someone was able to easily shoot them down. I believe I have come up
6 with better reasoning for using SVN. Someone may still shoot them
7 down, but hey, it's worth a try.
8
9 PROBLEM 1
10 Let's say openldap had a problem. So, we decide to mask the latest
11 version of openldap, in an effort to roll back to the version that was
12 working. Well, we find out that openldap still does not work. So, we
13 finally determine that it is library W. So, now we mask library W, in
14 an attempt to roll back to the version that was working. Oh no, now
15 we find out that library W is used by 20 other packages, that require
16 the latest version of library W in order to work. So, now we have to
17 mask library W, and 20 packages in order to get our openldap system
18 functional, assuming you cared about the 20 other broken packages,
19 which may break other packages, which may break yet other packages.
20
21 Wouldn't it be nice to just go "emerge --revert-portage", which goes
22 back to the last exported copy of the portage, that you had from
23 subversion? Boy, would that ever be convenient. It would be simple
24 enough to store a local history of portage tags that the user was
25 using in the past.
26
27 PROBLEM 2
28 Have you ever synced the portage, only to find out there's a broken
29 package simply because you synced in the middle of a mirror being
30 updated? Well, subversion operations are entirely atomic, meaning no
31 need to worry about such silly things.
32
33 Also, copies (tags) could be created for every single day, and special
34 ones for milestones.
35
36 PROBLEM 3
37 Don't sync more than once a day, or you may be temporarily banned?
38 Well, with SVN being tagged only once a day, there would be no need to
39 worry about this, seeing that
40
41 POTENTIAL ISSUES
42 Now, I'm not entirely sure of the performance implications of
43 subversion for this purpose. So, that would definitely have to either
44 be tested, or someone would have to talk with the subversion folks to
45 know if it would be a problem for thousands of users to access
46 subversion in readonly mode. It would certainly be annoying for a
47 developer to go "svn commit", and have to wait for half an hour
48 because everyone else is updating their local copies. But, that could
49 be solved by mirrors only getting updated once every day, at 12
50 midnight.
51
52 How does one get SVN copied over to mirrors in an atomic way, or does
53 the SVN location just get shut down during the mirror update?
54
55 Any thoughts?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Storage using SVN Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse@×××.de>
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