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From: Philip Webb <purslow@×××××××××.ca>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:54:37
Message-Id: 20080628065353.GA4580@sympatico.ca
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately? by William Kenworthy
1 080628 William Kenworthy top-posted (ugh!):
2 > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:41 -0700, Grant wrote:
3 >> Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day
4 >> and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work.
5 >> Anybody else experiencing that lately?
6 > My Gentoo systems get this way for one of two reasons:
7 > (1) Some config files get overwritten (make.conf was one time) by accident
8 > and a few packages get installed with the wrong build settings
9 > (2)system inconsistency, mainly with libraries.
10 > revdep-rebuild may or may not help - if not, check all the meta files
11 > (`equery check portage`, and then manually check make.conf etc)
12 > sand do an 'emerge -e world' and go make several (dozen) cups of coffee
13
14 No problems here now or (almost) ever. My 1st Gentoo machine (2003)
15 is still available as a stand-by, last updated 0803;
16 the current one (2007) has had no problems since install 0711 .
17
18 My observation -- I've said this previously, but no-one takes it up --
19 is that the 'emerge -xyzabc world' approach to keeping things upto-date
20 is the source of much anguish for users & needs serious updating itself.
21 I run 'eix-sync' once/week (later today Sat, in fact),
22 note down the pkgs which it reports updates for (nice colored list),
23 run 'emerge -Dup world' to get the correct order,
24 then emerge pkgs individually (occasionally omitting something I don't want);
25 if it suggests 'revdep-rebuild', I do that with '--pretend'
26 & again emerge the resulting list individually (omitting eg 'gcc').
27
28 I have a list of all the pkgs which are installed,
29 with dates & what depends on them (if anything) or if they're world/system,
30 which I carefully keep upto-date as I emerge each pkg.
31 It's all a Sat job, which takes 1 hour on average.
32
33 If I want a 'testing' pkg, I use 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64"'
34 & record the fact in my pkg list (above). Done this way, there's no harm.
35
36 Here are a few lines from my file 'pkg.ref' :
37
38 W 080623 app-office/openoffice-2.4.1 [ ~ : compile: 2 h 11 m ; 2,3 GB ]
39 W 080517 app-portage/eix-0.12.5 [~]
40 W 071025 app-portage/euses-2.5.4
41 W 080608 app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.4_rc4 [~]
42 W 071025 app-portage/mirrorselect-1.2
43 080223 app-portage/portage-utils-0.1.29 [for java-config-wrapper]
44 S 080510 app-shells/bash-3.2_p33
45 071104 app-text/build-docbook-catalog-1.2 [for -xsl-stylesheets]
46 W 071118 app-text/catdoc-0.94.2 [~]
47 080301 app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.73.2 [for mutt]
48 071105 app-text/enscript-1.6.4-r3 [for kdeprint]
49
50 The result of all this is that I have (almost) never had any problem
51 with my Gentoo machines since I started using Gentoo 0310 .
52
53 'emerge world' is the source of many problems regularly reported here.
54
55 HTH (smile)
56
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately? Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>