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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM, pk <peterk2@××××××××.se> wrote: |
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> On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote: |
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>> I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL |
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>> monolithic development philosophy to break what we have. Is |
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>> Poettering the only developer available to the Linux world? Are |
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>> RHL dictating what path Debian and its cousin distros should |
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>> follow? |
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> Problem is that Linux is dependent on udev and udev is in the hands of |
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> Kay Sievers which also develops systemd together with Lennart |
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> Poettering which in turn used to be a Gnome developer... With that |
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> said, what I cannot understand is why people advocating systemd (and |
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> the kitchen-and-sink model) are using Gentoo in the first place. |
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Probably for exactly the same reason you or anyone else uses Gentoo; |
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USE flags, portage, you can customize at your hearts content... |
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> Are |
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> they just trying to make the rest of the Linux distro landscape as |
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> miserable as Fedora? Why don't they stay with Fedora instead of trying |
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> to turn Gentoo into Fedora? |
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I've never used Fedora. I used RedHay back in the day of RedHat 4.2 |
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(it was my very first use of Linux in 1996), then moved to Mandrake |
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(remember Mandrake?), then Gentoo in 2003. I haven't used any other |
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distro since then. |
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I want Gentoo to keep being the best possible Linux (I *really* don't |
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care if it works in *BSD, Solaris, or Windows). Believe it or not, I'm |
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pretty sure that for Gentoo to keep being the best possible Linux, it |
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has to use systemd. |
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You don't have to agree with that, of course. But please understand |
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that I only support systemd in Gentoo, because I love Gentoo. |
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And, putting aside systemd and getting back on topic to the council's |
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decision of (eventually) not supporting separated /usr without an |
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initramfs; have you ever stopped to consider that, perhaps, that's the |
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best *technical* decision? (*gasp*) |
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When you have almost all distributions converging on that, and even |
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*the OpenRC maintainer* (which is the one pushing this, BTW, not the |
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systemd guys) supporting that decision, don't you think that perhaps, |
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just *perhaps*, everybody screaming about the sky falling (which, BTW, |
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they are certainly noisy, but I really don't think are that many) are |
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overreacting and even (*gasp* again) wrong? |
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Just something to think about it. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |