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From: Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@××××××××××××××××.de>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 08:47:48
Message-Id: 522450a7.sv5a6cXRXwVN0vK7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de
In Reply to: Re: Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo by Mark David Dumlao
1 Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@×××××.com> wrote:
2
3 > > > > the disk... OOPS. This is a classic "chicken and egg" situation.
4 > > >
5 > > > On Solaris no problem with loadable modules - everything is
6 > > > dynamically loaded. ***YOU NEED A GRUB THAT UNDERSTANDS ZFS AND THAT
7 > > > GIVES A ZFS INTERFACE TO THE KERNEL TO USE BEFORE ZFS WAS LOADED***.
8 >
9 > I'm confused as to what this means. Grub reads a filesystem, loads a kernel
10 > with options, and may give it an initrd. What happens from then on is none
11 > of grub's business. The filesystem it reads from and the one the kernel
12 > uses may be completely unrelated - this is why we have /boot filesystems.
13 >
14 > At what point does grub "present a zfs interface for the kernel to use"?
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16 After it booted the kernel
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18 You may not know dynamic kernels as Linux is a static kernel that just may load
19 additional modules _after_ it mounted the root fs.
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21 Solaris is dynamic from the beginning:
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23 - no static loading at all
24
25 - no predefined data sizes - everything is allocated
26
27 - no predefined major device numbers - numbers are assigned at first load
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29 Grub works this way:
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31 1) It loads /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix
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33 2) It checks the file "unix" and sees ELF dependencies.
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35 It loads the ELF dependencies (genunix and dtracestubs) listed
36 in the ELF headers from "unix".
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38 3) It loads /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive
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40 The Kernel then uses the filesystem callbacks in grub to load modules from the
41 filesystem in the boot archive.
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43 After the kernel did mount the root filesystem, it switches to the normal
44 kernel drivers just loaded and frees the memory space used by grub before.
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46 Jörg
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