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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Shadow Remote Desktop to connect to Windows 10
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:33:45
Message-Id: CAAD4mYgR9mDsJ5Cx-WJfXSj2EL7A=K0Qw1zkCk8nJO=WBNDBjw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Shadow Remote Desktop to connect to Windows 10 by thelma@sys-concept.com
1 On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, <thelma@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
2 > On 06/13/2018 10:00 AM, R0b0t1 wrote:
3 >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:18 AM, <thelma@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
4 >>> I run on Gentoo in Virtual Box Windows 7 and trying to connect to
5 >>> Windows 10
6 >>>
7 >>> X2go - doesn't work on Windows 10
8 >>> RDS Connection in from Windows 7 to Windows 10 work but not in "shadow".
9 >>>
10 >>> Any suggestion what else to try?
11 >>>
12 >>
13 >> What do you mean by shadow?
14 >
15 > By "shadow" I mean can log-in into the same X-Session as the user is
16 > running.
17 > When I tried to connect from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using RDS I got
18 > connected but the user at Windows 10 was logged out automatically. When
19 > the user on Windows 10 logged IN I got disconnected.
20 >
21 > I use X2go from between Gentoo boxes works very well, even controlling
22 > Windows 7 running in VirtualBox on remote system.
23 >
24 > The problem one of the remote systems is running Windows 10 (stand alone).
25 >
26
27 There are three ways I could see solving this, in order of ease of use:
28
29 1) Use RDPWrap.[1] You click some buttons and then connecting via RDP
30 with multiple users will not kick out your previously logged in
31 session.[2] To make things easier to manage I'd recommend creating a
32 separate account to run your VMs so that you can leave it on in the
33 background. However, there is a setting in the RDPWrap configuration
34 tool to allow multilogon with one user which you can try.
35
36 2) Use X2Go. Use the "suspend session" and "reconnect to session"
37 features. To use this you need to connect via X2Go to create a session
38 and then disconnect while leaving it active. You can later reconnect
39 at any time. This can be a little strange when accessing the session
40 locally, as you need to log in and then reconnect to the session on
41 the same computer.
42
43 3) Use X11 forwarding. This is likely to do what you have requested
44 but requires some minimal application support. If you launch a
45 forwarded application it will exit once it is closed on your desktop.
46 However, any daemonized programs you are running will stay active, and
47 the application you launch with Xming could be e.g. a managment
48 interface to that server.
49
50 4) Use VNC. This is probably the worst option but will do *exactly*
51 what you have requested. It will fight the user for the mouse if they
52 were sitting in front of the computer.
53
54 Can you comment on your evaluation of the suitability of some of the
55 other options?
56
57 Cheers,
58 R0b0t1
59
60
61 [1]: Most users do not consider RDPWrap to be against Microsoft's
62 terms of use. I would feel comfortable using it in a corporate setting
63 (there is in fact a company that sells a product nearly identical to
64 RDPWrap). An in-depth discussion can be seen at
65 https://github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/issues/26.
66
67 Perhaps the most limiting interpretation of the license that is still
68 reasonable allows you, the licensed user, to connect as many times as
69 you want to a single licensed installation:
70
71 Section 2.d(ⅴ): “Remote access. No more than once every 90 days, you
72 may designate a single user who physically uses the licensed device as
73 the licensed user. The licensed user may access the licensed device
74 from another device using remote access technologies.”
75
76 And in fact this is what I expected a Windows 8.1 Pro license to grant
77 me the ability to do out of the box, yet it does not without minor
78 modification.
79
80
81 Note the Windows license has some patently ridiculous things in it and
82 may not be valid. Taken at face value you are likely already violating
83 it. For example:
84
85 "Section 2.c: “[…] this license does not give you any right to, and
86 you may not:” and Section 2.c(ⅳ): “work around any technical
87 restrictions or limitations in the software;”
88
89 Ergo, "[...] using the file search utility FileLocator to work around
90 the restrictions Windows puts in place to limit your ability to find
91 files on the system is strictly speaking a violation of the Windows
92 license as written."
93
94
95 [2]: Depending on the settings you pass to RDPWrap connecting as your
96 user remotely while you are logged in locally will forcefully close
97 the local view to the sesion. This is probably what you want.

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