Gentoo Archives: gentoo-user

From: Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Shadow Remote Desktop to connect to Windows 10
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:47:20
Message-Id: 5050877.Kpnr5cX8BO@dell_xps
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Shadow Remote Desktop to connect to Windows 10 by R0b0t1
1 On Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:33:35 BST R0b0t1 wrote:
2 > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:41 AM, <thelma@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
3 > > On 06/13/2018 10:00 AM, R0b0t1 wrote:
4 > >> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:18 AM, <thelma@×××××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > >>> I run on Gentoo in Virtual Box Windows 7 and trying to connect to
6 > >>> Windows 10
7 > >>>
8 > >>> X2go - doesn't work on Windows 10
9 > >>> RDS Connection in from Windows 7 to Windows 10 work but not in "shadow".
10 > >>>
11 > >>> Any suggestion what else to try?
12 > >>
13 > >> What do you mean by shadow?
14 > >
15 > > By "shadow" I mean can log-in into the same X-Session as the user is
16 > > running.
17 > > When I tried to connect from Windows 7 to Windows 10 using RDS I got
18 > > connected but the user at Windows 10 was logged out automatically. When
19 > > the user on Windows 10 logged IN I got disconnected.
20 > >
21 > > I use X2go from between Gentoo boxes works very well, even controlling
22 > > Windows 7 running in VirtualBox on remote system.
23 > >
24 > > The problem one of the remote systems is running Windows 10 (stand alone).
25 >
26 > There are three ways I could see solving this, in order of ease of use:
27 >
28 > 1) Use RDPWrap.[1] You click some buttons and then connecting via RDP
29 > with multiple users will not kick out your previously logged in
30 > session.[2] To make things easier to manage I'd recommend creating a
31 > separate account to run your VMs so that you can leave it on in the
32 > background. However, there is a setting in the RDPWrap configuration
33 > tool to allow multilogon with one user which you can try.
34 >
35 > 2) Use X2Go. Use the "suspend session" and "reconnect to session"
36 > features. To use this you need to connect via X2Go to create a session
37 > and then disconnect while leaving it active. You can later reconnect
38 > at any time. This can be a little strange when accessing the session
39 > locally, as you need to log in and then reconnect to the session on
40 > the same computer.
41 >
42 > 3) Use X11 forwarding. This is likely to do what you have requested
43 > but requires some minimal application support. If you launch a
44 > forwarded application it will exit once it is closed on your desktop.
45 > However, any daemonized programs you are running will stay active, and
46 > the application you launch with Xming could be e.g. a managment
47 > interface to that server.
48 >
49 > 4) Use VNC. This is probably the worst option but will do *exactly*
50 > what you have requested. It will fight the user for the mouse if they
51 > were sitting in front of the computer.
52 >
53 > Can you comment on your evaluation of the suitability of some of the
54 > other options?
55 >
56 > Cheers,
57 > R0b0t1
58 >
59 >
60 > [1]: Most users do not consider RDPWrap to be against Microsoft's
61 > terms of use. I would feel comfortable using it in a corporate setting
62 > (there is in fact a company that sells a product nearly identical to
63 > RDPWrap). An in-depth discussion can be seen at
64 > https://github.com/stascorp/rdpwrap/issues/26.
65 >
66 > Perhaps the most limiting interpretation of the license that is still
67 > reasonable allows you, the licensed user, to connect as many times as
68 > you want to a single licensed installation:
69 >
70 > Section 2.d(ⅴ): “Remote access. No more than once every 90 days, you
71 > may designate a single user who physically uses the licensed device as
72 > the licensed user. The licensed user may access the licensed device
73 > from another device using remote access technologies.”
74 >
75 > And in fact this is what I expected a Windows 8.1 Pro license to grant
76 > me the ability to do out of the box, yet it does not without minor
77 > modification.
78 >
79 >
80 > Note the Windows license has some patently ridiculous things in it and
81 > may not be valid. Taken at face value you are likely already violating
82 > it. For example:
83 >
84 > "Section 2.c: “[…] this license does not give you any right to, and
85 > you may not:” and Section 2.c(ⅳ): “work around any technical
86 > restrictions or limitations in the software;”
87 >
88 > Ergo, "[...] using the file search utility FileLocator to work around
89 > the restrictions Windows puts in place to limit your ability to find
90 > files on the system is strictly speaking a violation of the Windows
91 > license as written."
92 >
93 >
94 > [2]: Depending on the settings you pass to RDPWrap connecting as your
95 > user remotely while you are logged in locally will forcefully close
96 > the local view to the sesion. This is probably what you want.
97
98 Also note that by default the MSWindows Remote Desktop on a workstation will
99 only allow one user at a time to use the desktop. There is however a Remote
100 Assistance facility which you may be able to use to connect to a desktop
101 session without disconnecting the already logged in user. Type msra.exe in
102 the search bar to launch it.
103
104 I'm not sure if it is possible to connect from Linux with freerdp or other
105 clients, but you should be able to connect from another Windows 10 PC.
106
107 --
108 Regards,
109 Mick

Attachments

File name MIME type
signature.asc application/pgp-signature

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Shadow Remote Desktop to connect to Windows 10 thelma@×××××××××××.com