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On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> > Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server & |
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>> > client, and an ntp client? Is that project prohibited from writing such |
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>> > software? Are they not allowed to do it? Does it break legal laws? Is |
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>> > there an NDA or non-compete clause in the mix that I'm not aware of? |
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>> > Because they are the only things that could stop systemd from writing |
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>> > such code; without such prohibitions they are free to spend their time |
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>> > doing whatever they damn well please and if that means yet another dhcp |
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>> > implementation, so be it. |
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>> Alan, thanks for succinctly putting why is absurd to complain about |
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>> someone else's desire to write whatever code she desires to write. And |
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>> to sharing it to the world! The HORROR! |
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>> How *DARE* they to release their code? For free! |
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> Once again, you do not understand the claim. |
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It is you who does not understand how software workds. See Alan response. |
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> If a user of Gentoo chooses to use non systemd profile, it means that |
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> we need to make sure systemd will not be a valid option, ever. |
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Again, you don't understand how software works: this has nothing to do |
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with "profiles", it has to do with the fact that UPower now relies on |
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systemd, and therefore people who has UPower installed now, *by |
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default*, require systemd. If they don't want systemd, there is a way |
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to do it, but it requires manual intervention since they now need to |
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first uninstall UPower. |
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> In this case, if it is to disable the upower USE flag, or to provide |
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> alternative, block newer version, whatever make it possible to have a |
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> system working without systemd. |
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It is provided: |
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emerge -C upower |
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emerge -1v upower-pm-utils |
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It has to be done manually, though; otherwise you step on systemd users. |
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> systemd should not be visible at any time, nor its implications. |
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Nobody is here to deal with other people's OCD. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |