Re: [gentoo-user] xen on new install reboots by itself

[J. Roeleveld]

On 8 April 2015 14:43:02 GMT-07:00, lee <lee@××××××××.de> wrote:
>hydra <hydrapolic@×××××.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM, lee <lee@××××××××.de> wrote:
>>
>>> symack <symack@×××××.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Other than that, unless you really do need full virtualization: I'm
>>> finding Linux containers to be far more manageable than virtual
>>> machines, and much more efficient.
>>>
>>>
>> Can you please post some more details?
>
>About containers?
>
>There's very useful documentation about them like
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LXC ...
>
>What can I say?  Virtualization with xen is like juggling with a set of
>black boxes each of which aren't exactly accessible; the
>documentation sucks, it's hard work to get it running and likewise hard
>to maintain.

I disagree. Been using Xen for over 10 years now and find it very easy to use.
The documentation could be better on the Xen site itself, but there is plenty of decent documentation available via Google. 

>Virtualization with containers is basically as simple as running just
>another daemon.

Not quite. I use virtualization to minimizer the physical hardware. Xen is easy for that. Containers are what chroot jails should have been.
But there is no simple method to set these up when security isolation is your goal.

>Which the "better" tool, or combination of tools is, depends on what
>you
>want to accomplish.  You could use containers in a VM, too, or use
>virtualbox along with containers to run the odd VMs that require full
>virtualzation.

Virtualbox is nice for a quick test. I wouldn't use it for production.

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