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On 09/08/2014 10:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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> On 9 August 2014 09:53:01 CEST, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> On 09/08/2014 08:35, J. Roeleveld wrote: |
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>>>> Test vms get updated when I feel like it. Some of them never :-) |
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>>> Hope they are behind a firewall then, wouldn't want to know how quick |
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>> a 2 year |
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>>> old VM gets 0wned if online. |
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>> They run locally in virtualbox on the laptop, and are fired up when |
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>> needed. Like for example when I have to figure out wtf exactly did |
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>> ubuntu do to munin today to break it *again* |
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> I try to avoid ubuntu. |
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> Tried it a few years ago. Looked ok, but didn't like the convoluted way to do a full update and ended up putting Gentoo on the netbook. |
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you mean |
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apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get |
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autoremove |
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Yeah, that drives me nuts too. |
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But it's better than Red Hat (dependency hell) and makes the office |
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staff workstations easy to admin (desktop stuff JustWorks for what they |
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need to do). |
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Plus, I refuse under any circumstances to run Gentoo on production |
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unless it's backed by a huge build farm or I have a large cluster that |
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are all identical and have very special needs. |
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Gentoo has it's uses cases, but a loose collection of servers none of |
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which are identical is not it. |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan.mckinnon@×××××.com |
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