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On Freitag 21 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: |
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> On 05/21/2010 09:26 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: |
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> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> |
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wrote: |
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> >> Then why does dmix lag? |
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> >> Then why does dmix lag? |
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> > |
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> > I don't know; I don't care. I don't use dmix, I use PulseAudio, and it |
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> > takes care of everything in user space and I don't have to worry about |
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> > anything. |
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> > |
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> >> I've tried it 6 days ago. Ubuntu 10.04. It's still a laggy, buggy, |
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> >> pile of ****. First thing I did was to disable it. |
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> > |
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> > It doesn't lag here. It's rock solid stable. In all my computers, each |
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> > one with completely different sound hardware. And I'm just using the |
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> > ebuilds from Gentoo; I didn't configure *anything*. I didn't have to. |
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> > |
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> > Maybe Ubuntu has something wrong: Lennart complained that they "didn't |
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> > get it": |
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> > |
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> > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pa-in-ubuntu.html |
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> > |
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> >> Yes, you and many people also find it acceptable to run their games with |
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> >> 10FPS, or to take their systems 1 minute to boot, etc. |
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> > |
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> > My games doesn't run at 10FPS, my laptop boot in seconds (and usually |
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> > it's always suspended), my desktop and media center (specially the |
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> > latter) boot very quickly also. Please don't speak about something you |
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> > don't know anything about. |
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> > |
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> >> I am not one of those people. I don't like it when the sound lags. You |
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> >> may claim that it doesn't bother you. But you can't claim that it |
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> >> doesn't happen. |
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> > |
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> > I can claim it: it doesn't happen *to me*. It works beautifully. I'm |
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> > using Gentoo, with the following versions: |
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> > |
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> > media-sound/pulseaudio-0.9.21.1 |
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> > sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.32.9 |
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> > |
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> > My sound card is : |
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> > |
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> > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio |
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> > Controller (rev 03) |
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> > |
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> > (I'm on my laptop; don't have the specs of my desktop or media center, |
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> > but the versions at least should be the same). |
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> > |
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> > I simply don't have any sound lags. |
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> > |
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> >> That doesn't mean ALSA is better. |
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> > |
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> > Again, I trust more the technical judgement from the kernel |
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> > developers. No offense. |
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> > |
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> >> Then why don't they fix it? It's still crap after all this time. |
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> > |
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> > It's not in my case. Not at all. But (as I said in my last mail), this |
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> > is Open Source; if you think it's crap, you can try to fix it. |
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> > |
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> > All I'm saying is that PulseAudio is a great sound architecture for |
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> > Linux. It works great for me, in several hardware configurations; and |
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> > in particular in my Media Center, which is my principal medium to |
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> > listen to music. And I trust the judgement of the ones that decided to |
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> > use ALSA+PulseAudio. |
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> > |
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> > Regards. |
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> |
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> All of this boils down to what you should have said in the beginning: |
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> It works for *you*. |
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> You don't mind the lag (there is lag, no way around it, you just don't |
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> mind because you're not using software that needs good latency, like |
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> software synthesizers) but I do. So stop trying to convince me that it |
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> works for me too. To use your own words, please don't speak about |
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> something you don't know anything about. As I see it, if I have to use |
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> ALSA's OSS-compatibility to get acceptable results, why not use the real |
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> thing instead? |
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h,mm, lets see - because oss4 is broken by design? Also, what 'latency' are |
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you talking about? |
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