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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 10:40:40
Message-Id: 20070518112939.0b67b7e2@zaphod.digimed.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs] by Enrico Weigelt
1 On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:03:21 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
2
3 > > If A depends on B and B depends on A, you build A without support
4 > > for B, then you can safely install B and A again with the features
5 > > you wanted.
6 >
7 > Great idea. Lots of redundant compiles and manual work just because
8 > unclean dependencies.
9
10 Lots? This new install has over 1000 packages on it, there was exactly
11 one circular depends, brought about by my changing USE flags too much. It
12 took around a minute to fix. If you are really that limited for CPU
13 cycles that this is a problem, I suggest you should not be using a source
14 based distro.
15
16 > Let's see if we get the driver API moved out to its own package,
17 > so we it'll be some bit clearer (could also make licensing issues
18 > some bit easier), but that's another story.
19
20 Yes, and one for the XOrg list, since Gentoo's policy is to stay as lose
21 to upstream as is feasible.
22
23 > It *P*DEPENDs on them. That's an (strange) kind of special dependency
24 > which is pulled in *after* install, instead of *before*. But still
25 > it is an dependency.
26 >
27 > So, Xserver dependens on driver(s), drivers depend on Xserver.
28 > Circular dependency.
29
30 no ot doesn't, it PDEPENDS on them, thereby removing any circular
31 dependency.
32
33 > q.e.d.
34
35 Quite Erroneous Debate?
36
37 > > Jakub is no longer a bug-wrangler, or a dev, he retired last month.
38 >
39 > Ah, good things still happen ? ;P
40
41 Jakub was very good at his job, but he does have an attitude problem.
42
43 Are you trying to emulate him, you are already halfway there?
44
45
46 --
47 Neil Bothwick
48
49 If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment.

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