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* Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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Hi, |
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> > At least several. I didn't find an good solution for checking |
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> > the whole tree yet, so I yet know some. Good candidates are |
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> > where PDEPENDs occour. For example the Xserver. |
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> As Bo has already explained, PDEPENDS cannot cause circular dependencies, |
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> in fact they prevent them. |
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Or in other words: an way of making circular dependencies some |
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bit less painful. |
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<snip> |
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> Yes, it is a good solution, because the circular dependency is |
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> caused by changed USE flags in the first place. You did notice |
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> my use of the word "temporarily", didn't you? |
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If the package management cannot handle such cases 100% automatic, |
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I'd consider it as buggy. |
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Just my personal oppinion, and I'll fix it at my site. |
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Anyone who shares my oppions and likes to join me, feel free |
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to give a note. |
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<snip> |
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> If A depends on B and B depends on A, you build A without support |
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> for B, then you can safely install B and A again with the features |
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> you wanted. |
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Great idea. Lots of redundant compiles and manual work just because |
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unclean dependencies. |
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<snip> |
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> > > Since you are clearly able to solve a problem that comes fro upstream |
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> > > and which the combined might of SUSE and Gentoo has failed to do, |
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> > Which problem from the upstream ? |
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> Interdependency of unrelated packages. |
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In case of the Xserver ? |
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Okay, mesa still suxx, but the borderline between server and |
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drivers is clear. |
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Let's see if we get the driver API moved out to its own package, |
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so we it'll be some bit clearer (could also make licensing issues |
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some bit easier), but that's another story. |
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<snip> |
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> > The problem w/ x11-base/xorg-server are the PDEPENDs on (external) |
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> > driver packages. I dont see any valid reason for depending the |
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> > Xserver on drivers, which themselfes depend on the Xserver. |
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> The server does not depend on the drivers, it depends on them, it |
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> wouldn't be much use without at least three drivers. |
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It *P*DEPENDs on them. That's an (strange) kind of special dependency |
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which is pulled in *after* install, instead of *before*. But still |
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it is an dependency. |
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So, Xserver dependens on driver(s), drivers depend on Xserver. |
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Circular dependency. |
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q.e.d. |
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> > In fact, I'll provide an solution. It will be published within the |
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> > OSS-QM project. But I won't waste any second on filing any bug, |
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> > just for that it's marked invalid by folks like Jakub. |
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> Jakub is no longer a bug-wrangler, or a dev, he retired last month. |
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Ah, good things still happen ? ;P |
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Maybe we could have another try: |
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I'll publish my overlay in a few days. Feel free to try it out |
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and get some stuff into offical tree. |
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cu |
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Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ |
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Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: |
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