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From: James <wireless@×××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:09:34
Message-Id: loom.20150213T205104-82@post.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] rpm or deb package installs by Alan McKinnon
1 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:
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4 > I doubt dpkg and rpm aren't going to be much use to you, unless you
5 > really want to run two package managers. Besides, both are not
6 > especially useful with the front ends apt* and yum.
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8 I'd just use those to unpackage and maybe preprocess some of the codes.
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10 Agreed. I do not want a full blown deb or rpm package manager just
11 a way to install and evaluate some of those codes before beginning a more
12 arduous and comprehensive task. Maybe I should just put up a RH/centos box
13 and evaluate codes there. It seems *everything* I want to test and look at
14 in the cluster and hpc world, as a rpm or deb package; so I'm looking for a
15 time saver, to surf thru the myriad of codes I'm getting; many look very
16 cool from the outside, but once I run them, they are pigs.......
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18 Then a slick way to keep them secure and clean it out. Maybe I need chroot
19 jails too? I spend way to much time managing codes rather than I do actually
20 writing code. I feel confused often and cannot seem to master this
21 git_thingy.... I have not code seriously in a long time and now it is
22 becoming an obsession, but the old ways are draining my constitutional
23 powers.....
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26 > Any special reason why you don't instead download the sources and build
27 > them yourself with PREFIX=/usr/local ?
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29 Lots of errant codes flying everywhere so you have to pull a code audit
30 to see what's in the raw tarballs before building. That takes way too much
31 time. I'm working on setting up several more workstations for coding to
32 isolate them from my main system. This approach you suggest is: error prone,
33 takes too much time, and I'm lazy and sometimes even stupid.
34 I need a structure methodology to be a one man extreme_hack_prolific
35 system that prevents me from doing stupid things, whilst I'm distracted.
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38 Maybe I should just put up a VM resources on the net, blast tons
39 of tests thru the vendors hardware and let them worry about the
40 security ramifications? Some of it is these codes are based on 'functional
41 languages' and I just do not trust what I do not fully understand. Stuff
42 (files etc) goes everywhere and that makes me cautiously nervous. I have
43 /usr/local for manual work and /usr/local/portage for ovelays (layman) but
44 it's becoming a mess. There where to I put the work effort that is a result
45 from repoman. Those codes seem to be parallel projects often
46 when the code I'm evaluating needs to be cleaned up or extend to properly
47 test. Furthermore I have a growing collection of file that result
48 from kernel profiling via trace-cmd, valgrind, systemtap etc etc.
49 As soon as I delete something, I need to re-generated it for one
50 reason or another...... I just hope that this repo.conf effort
51 helps be get more structurally organized?
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54 Did you see/test 'travis-ci' yet? [1] I'm not sure it's the same
55 on github [2] but some of the devs are using it on github.
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59 James
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61 [1] http://docs.travis-ci.com/
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63 [2] https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs Bill Kenworthy <billk@×××××××××.au>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>