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On Thursday 31 December 2015 13:34:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> On 31/12/2015 13:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: |
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> > Hello list, |
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> > I've built a separate system in spare partitions, using the |
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> > desktop/plasma profile and the kde overlay, to see how I like it. |
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> > I don't. |
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> > I won't list all my objections here, but I have attached two screen |
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> > shots of KMail: one in the standard qt4 KDE environment and the other |
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> > in qt5. You can see how much less compact the qt5 version is, even |
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> > after I've fiddled at some length with fonts and qt tweaks, including |
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> > installing the noto fonts which you see here. And the qt5 screen shot |
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> > is half as big again as the qt4. |
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> > My question to the panel is: is this just a temporary stage of |
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> > development, or are we going to have to live with it down the years? |
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> A lot of what you see there is not Qt itself, but the theme. |
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Yes, I understand that, but it's not easy for an ordinary user to separate |
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them. Someone who designs a whole theme is not an ordinary user, either. |
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> The modern trend in gui elements is to make them less busy, use more |
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> whitespace and try to display on thing on the screen at a time (less for |
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> the user to focus on). You can see this for yourself: look at typical |
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> web sites over the last 15 years, then compare how gui elements are done |
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> in kde3, 4 and now 5. You will see a pattern. It's also in OSes and |
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> toolkits: gnome, macs, windows since 8. And on your tablets and phone. |
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> The Qt5 theme you are looking at reflects this general trend. |
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I know what you mean, Alan. As my Scottish landlady used to say in the '60s, |
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the world's going to pigs and whistles. It's part of the apparently |
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universal trend to dumb everything down (even BBC Radio 3!) - and having |
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mobile devices take over from the desktop isn't going to help one whit. |
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Meanwhile, those who don't need or enjoy being condescended to have to suffer |
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the banality. |
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> I have not found a Qt5 theme that looks Qt4-esque, but it's totally |
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> possible to do it. |
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> I think in your case, you should go back to Qt4 until a quality theme is |
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> available for Qt5 that you like. Do keep in mind that Qt4 is already a |
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> good distance down the end-of-life process so you will have to switch to |
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> Qt5 some time (but not today or tomorrow) |
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Oh, I haven't abandoned Qt4 yet. It's my main, everyday system, while the |
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Qt5 one is just for playing with via dual boot. |
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Rgds |
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Peter |