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From: Willie Wong <wwong@×××××××××.EDU>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix & Pine incompatability
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:18:25
Message-Id: 20050922221141.GA13918@princeton.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix & Pine incompatability by Nick Rout
1 On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 08:56:37AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
2 > On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:43:05 -0400
3 > Willie Wong wrote:
4 >
5 > > The official pine distribution doesn't support maildir. Since I don't
6 > > run pine myself, I don't know if the maildir USE flag would provide
7 > > the maildir patch for pine.
8 >
9 >
10 > For heaven's sake read the goddamned ebuild! (see the message I just
11 > posted). What is so difficult about:
12 >
13 > grep maildir /usr/portage/mail-client/pine/*
14 >
15 > We've had two misleading posts on this subject, which basically only
16 > offer a guess to a question that is very easily answered!
17
18 So I made a gross overlook, but why can't you be civil about it? In my
19 case, yes, it never occurred to me to read the ebuild, and I am
20 ssh'ing in to my home machine, so I cannot say that I have no access.
21 But what if someone is trying to help when reading from G-Mail? or at
22 work and just browsing the e-mail and seeing a question they can
23 likely answer from a brief search from Google? For some people the
24 ebuild might not be sitting in an easily acceptable place you know.
25
26 In my case I interpreted the question as basically "the OP doesn't
27 know what to call the different mailbox formats and hence cannot
28 search on Google". So I provided that information (maildir vs mbox)
29 and did a cursory search on Google and saw that the official
30 distribution of Pine doesn't come with maildir support, though patches
31 do exist.
32
33 In any case, my post is not "Misleading" as you would have termed it.
34 I offered common suggestions in the emerge-sense: when a feature may
35 or may not have been included, check the USE flags. (Sure, I jumped
36 the gun there and assumed that the OP, when sending the post, has a
37 copy of Pine without maildir support, instead of just not knowing how
38 to use the feature, but hopefully after pointing out the fact that
39 such a thing is called maildir the OP would be able to configure pine
40 for it.)
41
42 And I did suggest the OP check for maildir support in his local copy
43 before moving on to anything else.
44
45 And if the OP is used to using pine + mbox, my second suggestion of
46 configuring postfix to use mbox instead of maildir is an equally
47 valid, sensible, and perhaps preferable (let's not get into a flamewar
48 on the relative merits of mbox and maildir here) solution to the
49 problem.
50
51 Why did you think the profane language you used was called for? The
52 worst case scenario in these things are the other poster and I making
53 fools out of ourselves at large when the OP replied that he doesn't
54 see any USE flags. We only suggested that the OP look into the USE
55 flags, it is not like we are suggesting a recompile that might
56 possibly hose the OP's system.
57
58 I have no problem with you correcting our mistakes. I have no problem
59 with you being arrogant about it. I have no problem with you
60 double-posting that correction just to get your point across. But I
61 find it extremely unpleasant that you have to use offensive language
62 while doing any of the above.
63
64 Best,
65
66 W
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix & Pine incompatability Nick Rout <nick@×××××××.nz>
Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix & Pine incompatability Dave Nebinger <dnebinger@××××.com>