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On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:46:01 -0400 |
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Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org> wrote: |
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> On 2013-03-27 10:33 AM, Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com> wrote: |
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> > On 03/27/2013 10:25 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: |
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> >> Ok... |
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> >> So, what is this all about? |
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> >> Does all of this mean that udev is now going*completely* away, |
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> >> *totally* replaced by systemd? |
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> >> If so, has there been any kind of formal announcement about this |
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> >> *anywhere*?? |
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> > Hold your horses. |
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> > The devs will work something out; systemd is not replacing the udev |
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> > package for all users. For the moment, it's just replacing the udev |
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> > package for users using systemd. |
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> Thanks Michael, but that didn't *exactly* answer my question. |
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> I thought that newer versions of udev are now *dependent* on systemd? |
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> Doesn't that mean that anyone who is using udev is also 'using' |
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> systemd? |
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udev is distributed as part of systemd, but it does not depend on |
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systemd. It's possible to extract the udev part of the systemd tarball |
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and build only udev, which is how people are using udev with openrc |
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instead of systemd. |
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> So, again, my question is, is udev going to be going *completely* |
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> away in the future, being *totally replaced* by systemd? Or maybe |
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> better said asked as, will udev soon just be subsumed by systemd? |
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I don't think that's clear to anyone yet. It's only guaranteed that |
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udev will serve the needs of systemd users, and opinions and hopes vary |
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about whether it will serve the needs of non-systemd users in the |
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future. |
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Eventually, as I understand it, GNOME and KDE will require systemd |
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because they want full control of they system. For people not using |
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GNOME or KDE, other init systems will still be possible, with either |
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udev or a udev alternative. I have no idea how far away "eventually" |
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will be. |
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> Even if this is a year or more away, I'd like to know... |
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Me too. |
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# emerge crystal-ball |
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Calculating dependencies... done! |
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emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "crystal-ball". |
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