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On Saturday 12 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote: |
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> > I mean dealing with Gentoo components versions sounds sensible.... |
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> > watching GRML/Knoppix/whatever website for a Gentoo |
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> > install...surely less. |
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> As I said in the thread earlier, do not bind your mind to the idea |
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> that "you need gentoo to install gentoo", the fact is, you don't. The |
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> installation steps from knoppixCD/GRML is almost identical to those |
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> from a Gentoo CD, with only one exception: they don't come with |
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> /mnt/gentoo, so you'll have to mkdir /mnt/gentoo, but if that makes |
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> it less sensible as you claimed, I'm afraid I can't agree. |
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Without trying to be a complete dick here, I think Gavelsky has not yet |
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100% comprehended the essential difference between Gentoo and binary |
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distros: |
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Gentoo is NOT "plug in and go", it is a complex scheme that allows you |
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to build other distros. It is not suitable for newbies (disregard the |
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occasional newbie that does get it right, that's a minority and very |
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atypical), and one really does have to have moved beyond the "Oh, look! |
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Shiny installer!" mentality to appreciate it. When you get to that |
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stage, you appreciate that you need a bootstrap system to build the |
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first stages of your own distro, and you can get that bootstrap system |
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from any place you feel like getting it from. |
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Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo |
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installer is probably the wrong target market and should be referred to |
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other distros that will suit their needs better. This is not a troll or |
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an elitist statement, it's just recognizing what gentoo is and what it |
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isn't - it's not a distro suitable for someone to whom chroot isn't yet |
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second nature. |
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I could give a traditional car analogy with kit cars, but I think I'm |
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into dead horse territory already |
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alan |
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Alan McKinnon |
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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com |
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