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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel |
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<alec@××××××××××××××.com> wrote: |
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> Mark David Dumlao wrote: |
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>> The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit. |
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>> If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it |
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>> took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have |
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>> measured several times and left mean comments about whichever |
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>> system you hated the most. |
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> Unfortunately, the systemd guys keep screaming that systemd is faster, |
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> and burden of proof is on the party that's claiming something. It's not |
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> James'/Volker's responsibility to prove that systemd isn't faster. |
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I think Mark fully appreciates that if he wants to change your mind |
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he's going to have to work hard to do it. |
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I just don't think he really cares. |
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The argument about whether systemd is better/worse than sysvinit was a |
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debate back in 2012-2013. Just about anybody actually contributing to |
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distros has moved on since then. That doesn't mean that there is 100% |
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agreement on anything, just that at this point it seems unlikely that |
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things are going to change much either way on that front. A few |
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distros are likely to avoid systemd, and the vast majority are in the |
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process of adopting it. |
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With Gentoo you can run whatever you want for PID 1, just as you can |
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use whatever bootloader, kernel, syslog, etc you want. Not all the |
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init options have equal support - upstart isn't even in the tree and |
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few packages supply scripts for runit. But, nobody is going to get in |
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anybody's way if they want to introduce upstart, etc. |
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The fact is among those actually contributing to projects like openrc, |
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udev, eudev, and systemd everybody tends to get along just fine. |
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There is plenty of interest in finding common ground and collaborating |
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so that anybody switching from one to another can do so easily, and so |
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that these projects don't diverge where it isn't intended. It seems |
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like the heaviest fighting seems to involve folks who don't contribute |
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to any of these. |
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Rich |
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