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On Saturday 28 November 2009 13:59:38 Jörg Schaible wrote: |
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> Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> > On Friday 27 November 2009 23:07:25 Jörg Schaible wrote: |
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> >> Alan McKinnon wrote: |
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> >> > On Thursday 26 November 2009 19:34:34 James wrote: |
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> >> >> kde-4.3.1 went smooth, except |
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> >> >> for I have to manually removed all the kde-3.5 packages. |
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> >> >> It had kde-meta-3.5.10. Is there some syntax or a better |
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> >> >> method to insure all the kde-3.5.x packages are removed, |
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> >> >> without a manual sweep? |
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> >> > |
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> >> > grep kde /var/lib/portage/world |
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> >> > and eyeball the output. There should only be -meta packages, and |
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> >> > individual packages for which you have NOT installed the -meta |
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> >> > package, in there. vi the world file and remove the stuff that |
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> >> > shouldn't be there, then |
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> >> > |
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> >> > emerge -C <all-kde3.5-meta-packages-in-world> && emerge -a --depclean |
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> >> as alternative simply append to all kde-base/* packages in world :4.3 |
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> >> and do then a depclean ;-) |
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> > Which promptly defeats the ENTIRE purpose of a world file and -meta |
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> > packages. |
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> a) I've never used the meta packages, but selected my KDE apps on purpose |
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You missed the part where the user clearly states earlier that he DOES use |
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-meta packages. With that in mind, any advice you give should be aligned to |
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the fact that he is a -meta user |
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> b) it's a lot easier this way to get rid of the KDE 3 stuff, however you |
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> should get drop of the slot again after depclean has been finished |
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How is it easier? You have to maintain the SLOTs in world yourself because the |
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instant you do that portage will not automagically offer to upgrade anymore |
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(upgrades within the same slot excepted). And --depclean will NOT adjust your |
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SLOTs in world when it's finished. I can't really make sense of your last |
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sentence but that is what you seem to imply |
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> > If that's how you want to admin your box, |
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> I am using long enough Gentoo that I remember very well the times when |
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> portage destroyed the world file completely. |
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That was long ago and no longer applicable. That bug in portage got fixed, so |
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a behaviour on your part to compensate for a bug that is not there is outdated |
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behaviour. |
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> And regenworld put *anything* |
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> into world at that time. Therefore I know very well, what should be in this |
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> file and what not. There's no magic. |
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Yes, the only things in world are packages you want that are not dependencies |
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of something else already in world. You are advising the user to put the |
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dependencies of -meta packages into world when the -meta package is already |
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there. |
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And that is plain silly |
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> > can I recommend you switch to |
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> > sabayon instead? |
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> ROFL! So, you mean, if users get too smart, Gentoo is no longer their |
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> distribution? Don't be silly. |
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Erm, you should read the whole thread and realise the bits you missed - the |
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bits that make your statements nonsensical |
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