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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: AMD lappy
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 03:01:35
Message-Id: psqkhs$3hu$1@blaine.gmane.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AMD lappy by james
1 On 2018-11-18, james <garftd@×××××××.net> wrote:
2 > On 11/17/18 6:51 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
3 >> On 2018-11-17, Mick <michaelkintzios@×××××.com> wrote:
4 >>> On Saturday, 17 November 2018 23:00:22 GMT Grant Edwards wrote:
5 >>>> On 2018-11-17, james <garftd@×××××××.net> wrote:
6 >>>>
7 >>>>> Actually and AMD Arm (64bit) Ryzen or newer.
8 >>>>
9 >>>> No, Ryzen is not an Arm processor.
10 >>
11 >>> Well, ... the PSP spy-in-the-die is an ARM core running within the
12 >>> main AMD x86 CPU and you can't switch it off, or remove it.
13 >>
14 >> Right. Unless AMD has screwed up royally, the ARM
15 >> security-processor-thingy is pretty much invisible to the end-user.
16 >>
17 >>> However, I'm sure this is not the kind of ARM James' been looking
18 >>> for.
19 >>
20 >> I assumed not.
21 >>
22 >> I'd love to have an Arm based laptop, but getting full-up Linux
23 >> running reliably on a Chromebook is just a bit over my hassle budget.
24 >> I also want it to have a 16" 4:3 150dpi display, an RJ45 Ethernet
25 >> connector, and a real DB9 serial port. I'll pass on the built in POTS
26 >> modem...
27 >
28 > I had not realized that AMD has completely given up on Arm Systems.
29
30 It's hard to tell. They still show the Opteron-A on their web site,
31 but Google couldn't find anything using it...
32
33 > I'm looking for an arm64 system, with enough native power to compile 64
34 > bit arm codes, natively. Here is the best I've found::
35 >
36 > SynQuacer Dev Box
37 >
38 > [1] https://www.96boards.org/product/developerbox/
39 >
40 > Purports to run gentoo (embedded?).
41 > "�SC2A11� is a multi-core chip with 24 cores of ARM� Cortex-A53"
42 >
43 > Not quite available (alpha) and a bit pricey at $1200.00.
44
45 Ouch.
46
47 > Like Grant I'm looking for an arm 64 system that is straightforward
48 > on installing gentoo, and has enough resources to perform most
49 > compiles, natively. Or somebody has distcc running on four of those
50 > 4G DDR-4 boards.
51 >
52 > Perhaps a gentoo cluster running on the latest R. PI ?
53 >
54 > Perhaps Vapier has a hidden howto to put native gentoo on Chromebooks?
55
56 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Chromebook
57
58 It's definitly doable ( for certain models and some value of
59 "doable"). Everytime I look into it, the models for which "real"
60 Linux installations are documented are always out-of-production.
61
62 > Perhaps "TomH" has some suggestions. I got one of those "hikey Armv8a"
63 > boards from 2015, but cannot find his gentoo image he crafted and
64 > published. I do not have time for another gentoo adventure, just want to
65 > use it and sync it now and again and install ebuilds and write a few
66 > ebuilds for some 64 bit arm boards.
67
68 Cross development might be easier. It's how a _lot_ of ARM Linux
69 targets are supported. Even if the devlopment host and target are
70 both ARM64, unless they're _really_ identical (same kernel, distro,
71 and libraries), you still end up doing a good amount of "cross"
72 compiling.
73
74 > My thoughts are to consolidate my efforts into one (arm64) arch, both on
75 > the development lappy and the arm64 SBCs I have to code to and
76 > maintain. Perhaps All winner? (Allwinner H6)?USB 3.0 is great for SSD
77 > and offgrid applications.
78
79 --
80 Grant

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