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From: gevisz <gevisz@×××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 08:44:36
Message-Id: CA+t6X7feoAT3PWzeM-a68i_12=wUZ5FoGS58o1eOoBfi2hB4LA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive? by Frank Steinmetzger
1 2016-09-01 10:23 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@×××.de>:
2 > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
3 >
4 >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it.
5 >> And a few more to mkfs it.
6 >>
7 >> Are you sure you aren't thinking of mkfs with ext2 (which did take hours
8 >> for a drive that size?
9 >
10 > Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks) before entrusting a
11 > drive with anything important.
12
13 It is a good advice! I have already thought of this but I am sorry to
14 acknowledge
15 that, since the "old good times" of MS DOS 6.22, I never did this in Linux. :(
16
17 And except for one 2.5" disk failure on my old laptop about 7 years ago,
18 I had no problem with this so far. :)
19
20 All other my hard disks work for about 10 years without any intervention
21 from my side and even without any backups so far. That's why I started
22 to think about it now. :)
23
24 So, can you, please, advice me about the program or utility that can do
25 badblocks check for me?
26
27 >> > Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive
28 >> > into smaller logical ones and why?
29 >>
30 >> The only reason to partition a drive is to get 2 or more
31 >> smaller ones that differ somehow (size, inode ratio, mount options, etc)
32 >
33 > If you want to do backups, then of course the file system is important, so
34 > it retains permissions and stuff. Your ext4 choice is the right one in that
35 > case. However, I partitioned by backupdrive into two partitions, so the one
36 > with the sensitive data can be encrypted. The big partition that holds media
37 > files has not got that treatment.
38
39 It is, again, a good advice but, again, returning to the "old good times"
40 of MS DOS 6.22, I do remember that working then on 40MB (yes, megabytes)
41 hard drive I used some program that compressed all the data before saving
42 them on that hard drive. Unfortunately, one day, because of the corruption,
43 I lost all the data on that hard drive. Since then, I am very much afraid of
44 compressed or encrypted hard drives.
45
46 >> Go with no partition table by all means, but if you one day find you
47 >> need one, you will have to copy all your data off, repartition, and copy
48 >> your data back.
49 >
50 > When I do the mentioned partitioning scheme, I put the biggest partition at
51 > the beginning of the drive and the smaller one(s) at the back. That way,
52 > should I ever actually need to resize a partition, I only have to export the
53 > smaller partition for the process (or none at all, if it’s just a backup
54 > itself and I have another backup on another drive).
55 > Of course there’s LVM these days, but up until recently, I used NTFS for the
56 > media partition so I could also read it in $DUMB_OS, which doesn’t know LVM.
57 > Only a short while back, I also switched to ext4 for that, so I can retain
58 > file names with : and ? in them. But I still refrained from using LVM,
59 > though.
60
61 I am afraid of LVM because of the same reason I described above.
62
63 > Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’
64 > ’ve been using vi for 15 years, because I don’t know with which command
65 > to close it.
66
67 :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive? Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@×××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>