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From: Florian Philipp <lists@××××××××××××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] backup to a cold-swap drive
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:25:50
Message-Id: 4BDAE835.3020804@f_philipp.fastmail.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] backup to a cold-swap drive by Iain Buchanan
1 Am 29.04.2010 02:38, schrieb Iain Buchanan:
2 > Hi & thanks,
3 >
4 > On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 17:31 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
5 [...]
6 >
7 >> If you can live with just one big partition as a backup (probably with
8 >> separate /boot), you should replace fstab and grub.conf on the backup
9 >> medium and blacklist them from the files which you want to back up.
10 >
11 > why wouldn't I backup fstab and grub.conf as well? If my internal disk
12 > dies, I assume I'll swap them over, meaning grub and fstab will have to
13 > be the same.
14
15 I think you misunderstood me or I didn't explain it correctly. I try it
16 again:
17
18 You probably have a lot of partitions on your internal disk; one for /,
19 /usr and /home, for example. My reasoning was that it is probably easier
20 to have just one big partition on your backup medium instead of many
21 small ones. If you would then swap your backup medium in, with exactly
22 the same fstab as in your original installation, your system would try
23 to mount partitions which are simply not there. Therefore you need a
24 different fstab and most likely also another grub.conf.
25
26 >
27 >> Concerning the backup tool, I would use `rsync --delete` plus all
28 >> relevant switches for permissions, times, acls, etc. If you use another
29 >> tool, just make sure it doesn't put some metadata onto the backup medium
30 >> and that it can delete files which no longer exist on the original medium.
31 >
32 > I was thinking of rsync, but I didn't want to do it in an hourly cron
33 > fashion, I was hoping for some "gamin" alteration-triggered idea.
34 >
35
36 Ah, I see what you mean. I've never worked with the file alteration
37 monitor (FAM) but once evaluated inotify for some administrative
38 purposes. AFAIK they are not scalable good enough to work on a system
39 wide basis. For example, I think the default limit of observable files
40 with inotify is 8192.
41
42 >> With regard to your requirement to just 'pull the cord' without
43 >> umounting it:
44 >
45 > I wasn't thinking of pulling the chord without unmounting, I was
46 > thinking of the machine dying, hence leaving the disk in a non-shutdown
47 > state.
48 >
49
50 Okay, I thought you meant the unreliable power at those "weird
51 locations" you were talking about. Such a black-out or brown-out is
52 basically the same as pulling the cord.
53
54 > thanks for the tips :) rsync will at least get me going quickly.
55 > Yesterday I tried iotop to with dd - some slowness but otherwise quite
56 > nice.
57 >
58
59 To reduce the performance impact, you can also use the ionice command.
60
61 Hope this helps,
62 Florian Philipp

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