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On Monday 25 December 2006 02:46, "Mike Myers" <fluffymikey@×××××.com> |
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wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] anti-portage wreckage?': |
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> I understand what you say, but I'm not sure I got my point across very |
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> well. Let's say I have a server that has various things installed like |
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> apache with the 2.0 branch, mysql with the 4.0 branch, and PHP with |
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> the 4.xbranch. If I do an emerge -u world on a machine with these, at |
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> some random |
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> point in time when the devs decide the newer branch is stable, then any |
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> one of these will be upgraded to the next branch. What I am asking, is |
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> why wouldn't it be better to have it where I will only stay on the |
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> current branch for that profile, and only move to the next branch when I |
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> change the profile? |
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I would say... Move to Debian. Gentoo dosen't have fixed branches (we have |
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a live tree) even profiles don't fix much, generally minimal (not maximal) |
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version numbers. |
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Debian, will make sure that upgrades to your (e.g.) sarge mysql package are |
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either ABI compatible, or tied to other upgrades that move the ABI all at |
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the same time. This generally make Debian (and to a lesser extent Ubuntu) |
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quite stable once installed. Gentoo is.... different. |
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By default, Gentoo marks packages as working ("stable"), testing ("~arch"), |
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or non-working ("masked by package.mask") and lets the user control the |
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version(s) they want to use on their specific system (rather than |
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being "attached" to a profile) with the local /etc/portage/package.mask |
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(and package.keywords and package.unmask etc.). |
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If you decide that mysql 4 is what you want to stick with as long as gentoo |
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will support it, there stick something like '>category/mysql-4*' |
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or '>=category/mysql-5*' into your package.mask. emerge will then stop |
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whenever it wants newer mysql. |
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-- |
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"If there's one thing we've established over the years, |
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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest |
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clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." |
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-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh |
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